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tough questions: are our wide receivers mediocre?

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Thinking about it a little more it's a legitimate question to wonder if the staff is maximizing their skillset and if that kind of evolution will actually happen under a defensive head coach. You see other teams like the Packers out there just turning it on after cleaning house in the offseason. Yes Rodgers is fantastic and a future hall of famer, but they won 6 total games last year and so far they're already 7-1 after retooling.

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Just now, Forty-Eight said:

Are you sold on Samuel? You better not if you’re not even sold on Moore

Different reasons.

I feel like Samuel has the tools to be great, but I don't see it happening.

What bothered me with Moore last season was it felt like way too many of his big plays came on gadget runs or end arounds and such rather than passes.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I think they would greatly benefit from an established veteran to take some of the workload off of them and a redzone target. Damn, I'd love to get AJ Green from the Bengals and kill two birds with one stone.

That's technically what Torrey Smith was imagined to be, I thought.

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Mediocre is a fair term.  And to be honest, that still might be an upgrade given what we've had in recent years.

CMC is our best RB and WR.  Pure and simple.  I don't know how sustainable it is long-term to run so much of our offense through him, but I get why they do it.

 Olsen knows how to get open at TE, so as a collective group, I think we have enough talent.

Samuel can be inconsistent, but he still is getting open deep at least 2-3 times a game and we can't connect.

Moore makes tough catches and gets nice YAC, but he has also made some awful mistakes you can't have from your WR1.

The WR group isn't setting the world on fire, but they're not bad either.

Norv's offense isn't predicated on having to have a true WR1, but it's also true that with the limited time the offensive line is able to block, these guys aren't getting open consistently.

Nothing was going to matter on a day like today where the defense got gashed so severely on the ground.  It wasn't like SF was destroying us through the air.  They moved the ball some, and Kittle is a beast, but they didn't really need to an aerial attack for the most part.

But to your original point, this group is absolutely mediocre as of now.  I think they have the talent to be better (and I haven't thought that in years past), but it will require better line play to get there.

And these guys (especially Moore and Samuel) to be more consistent.

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This is not a tough question. Our receivers are average. Moore is a solid # 2. Samuel is overrated as hell and should not be back after his rookie contract. Samuel is a nice offensive weapon but not at full time wr. 
 

If we don’t look at QB in the draft, it better be WR. Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs and Higgins are all instant upgrade over Moore and Samuel. 

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Different reasons.

I feel like Samuel has the tools to be great, but I don't see it happening.

What bothered me with Moore last season was it felt like way too many of his big plays came on gadget runs or end arounds and such rather than passes.

That last paragraph describes Samuel more so D.J. Moore imo. 

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