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Meanwhile, we're buying a golf course

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
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Anybodyhome Grand Master

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Waterford is a semi-private course owned by Pinnacle Golf Properties in Charlotte. They own and operate several courses in and around Charlotte and a couple in the Greensboro area (Bryan Park and Stoney Creek).

A $4M tax valuation is just stupid, though. Wife is the COO of a totally private, 100-year old Donald Ross course and its tax value is $1.3M on 150 acres.

There aren't a lot of $4M golf properties that I now of charging $25 to play anytime Monday thru Thursday. Those are muni course prices, maybe even less than some muni courses I've played. 

Said it before and I'll say it again. At some point, Tepper is building his own stadium. And it won't be in Charlotte. 

 

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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14 minutes ago, Snake said:

If our new dome doesn't reside in SC I will be shocked. Charlotte better roll out the red carpet or they will have a stadium with nothing in it. 

I wouldn't be surprised if the long-term plan is to retrofit BOA for MLS and build a brand new Tepper World Panthers stadium in SC.

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Michael Rig Newbie

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you guys aren't that bright are you?  Do you think he's going to tear down the residential neighborhood to build a stadium on the golf course.  He'll also have to buy out the surrounding business park and build a highway to get in and out and navigate all the natural wetland areas and.....do you get it now.  A lot of football players and owners and other business people GOLF.  They do business on the course and despite what you think.  They do have a lot of free time.  No stadium is going up at Waterford.

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13 hours ago, Michael Rig said:

you guys aren't that bright are you?  Do you think he's going to tear down the residential neighborhood to build a stadium on the golf course.  He'll also have to buy out the surrounding business park and build a highway to get in and out and navigate all the natural wetland areas and.....do you get it now.  A lot of football players and owners and other business people GOLF.  They do business on the course and despite what you think.  They do have a lot of free time.  No stadium is going up at Waterford.

The property really doesn't suit for a stadium site if you look at a GIS map.  The back nine surrounds the Waterford neighborhood, kinda rendering that part of the property useless in terms of a stadium.  The front nine might have enough room for a stadium, but you'd still have to buy out the business parks so you could have enough parking as well as dealing with any environmental impacts of being so close to the river.

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LinvilleGorge Grand Master

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15 hours ago, Michael Rig said:

you guys aren't that bright are you?  Do you think he's going to tear down the residential neighborhood to build a stadium on the golf course.  He'll also have to buy out the surrounding business park and build a highway to get in and out and navigate all the natural wetland areas and.....do you get it now.  A lot of football players and owners and other business people GOLF.  They do business on the course and despite what you think.  They do have a lot of free time.  No stadium is going up at Waterford.

You don't necessarily have to actually plan to ever out a stadium there to use that big chunk of dirt as leverage to help you fleece the city of Charlotte.

It's $4M well spent if it helps you get $500M+ from Charlotte.

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1of10Charnatives Mentor

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On 10/28/2019 at 6:56 PM, Michael Rig said:

you guys aren't that bright are you?  Do you think he's going to tear down the residential neighborhood to build a stadium on the golf course.  He'll also have to buy out the surrounding business park and build a highway to get in and out and navigate all the natural wetland areas and.....do you get it now.  A lot of football players and owners and other business people GOLF.  They do business on the course and despite what you think.  They do have a lot of free time.  No stadium is going up at Waterford.

Can I ask you a serious question in 2 parts?

1. Would you walk up to strangers having the same conversation in public and join in by starting off with “You guys aren’t that bright are you?” This is literally your first post to this forum and you introduce yourself by insulting everyone in the conversation. I’m sure you’re a perfectly reasonable person face to face, so why is it okay to behave this way on the internet?

2. Are you really implying that a lack of detailed knowledge of all the factors affecting land development and use for large scale projects such as this makes a person stupid? Why not just say “ Hey guys I think might be overlooking something.” or “ I think there might be factors no one has considered yet.”? 

I know this is kind of picking on you because what you’re doing is sadly the norm rather than the exception, but since you just started, why not get off on the right foot?

Unless you’re an alt and the whole point is you don’t have the guts to say this on your main account. Either way, maybe we should all consider that it’s really easy to hurl insults from a keyboard, but people who routinely behave this way irl are shunned socially. Nothing wrong with disagreement,  I just don’t understand why it has to come with belittlement when it’s online.

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