Revisiting the "shakeup" talk

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

I don't argue that, and I think plenty of people see he and Rivera as a package deal. LaCanfora might too.

Just sayin'...

I know but I don't like hearing it.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

I know but I don't like hearing it.  

I didn't care much for writing it.

[Waldo]

Clean sweep or it's not enough. Hurney staying as GM is doom for change. 

[tarheelpride]

December 30th looks to be a bloodbath on the football side of things. This whole franchise on the football side needs a complete rebuild, from the medical staff to equipment managers. Hell, overhaul the grounds crew while we're at it.

 

I expect the first shoe to drop will be Hurney, then after that, Rivera. Let the new staff decide how to deal with Cam.

[tarheelpride]

Just now, Waldo said:

Clean sweep or it's not enough. Hurney staying as GM is doom for change. 

Keeping Hurney will jeopardize our rebuild and future more than any single thing we do this offseason. It has to start with showing him the door.

[Ivan The Awesome]

53 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You wanna destroy an organization from within? The leader doing this is the #1 way to do it.

The best business advice I've ever gotten is to "bitch up". You can't let your team feel your frustrations.

Could you elaborate a bit more on that term? I'm not sure I understand what "bitch up" is supposed to mean. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Could you elaborate a bit more on that term? I'm not sure I understand what "bitch up" is supposed to mean. 

Complain up the ladder, not down. Want to vent your frustrations? Do it to you boss. Don't have a boss that will allow you to vent? Well, that sucks. Your boss sucks.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

Could you elaborate a bit more on that term? I'm not sure I understand what "bitch up" is supposed to mean. 

It works if you have a boss to bitch up to.  But when you are THE BOSS everyone else gets bitched down to.

[Ivan The Awesome]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Complain up the ladder, not down. Want to vent your frustrations? Do it to you boss. Don't have a boss that will allow you to vent? Well, that sucks. Your boss sucks.

Ah okay. I understand now. 

[BurnHurnBurn]

35 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

if you can only get a franchise 3 winning seasons out of 9 with prime Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly to build your team around?

stunning incompetence and or lack of imagination.  Gawd, they are so bad.

[GoPanthers123]

I remember last year someone claiming that “my sources say Ron was already removed and is just there for a couple more weeks to tie up loose ends”.  

It is all hearsay and speculation.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Complain up the ladder, not down. Want to vent your frustrations? Do it to you boss. Don't have a boss that will allow you to vent? Well, that sucks. Your boss sucks.

Understood, though I think the relevant question here would be if he's venting "within the building", who is he venting to

If he's talking about Rivera and Hurney, then obviously he isn't talking to them. And I wouldn't imagine he's talking to their subordinates either, so who?

Only thing I can figure: I know there are people in the building who are Tepper employees but not necessarily Panther employees (personal assistants and such). Overall though, I think it's probably safest to say most of the people in question are probably outside the building. It'd jibe with what Person and others are hearing from other NFL front offices.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

I remember last year someone claiming that “my sources say Ron was already removed and is just there for a couple more weeks to tie up loose ends”.

It is all hearsay and speculation.

Well, to be fair, that was one of our resident board nimrods just looking for attention.

What we're hearing these days comes from legit sources.

[Shufdog]

10 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Complain up the ladder, not down. Want to vent your frustrations? Do it to you boss. Don't have a boss that will allow you to vent? Well, that sucks. Your boss sucks.