Panthers will draft a QB in Round 1

[raz]

something i've seen thrown around on this board that i don't believe.    if a qb is good he can overcome a oline issue.  he won't get ruined because of it.  if he's good it will show through.  some people think that failed qb's would fail no matter what team they would have gone to.   i don't believe that at all.   yeah some qb's may fall in the 'would fail' no matter where they went, but coaching and development matter.   along with that goes o-line.   having a good line matters.  

[PghPanther]

10 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

QB > OL

Never seen an OL win a SB before 

You haven't?

You don't need a franchise QB to win a SB if you have a dominant O-line........there are plenty examples of that..........give me the foundation before you build the penthouse view...........

On the other hand there are plenty examples of great QB's looking very pedestrian if their Oline can't block for them.......

Kyle Allen, is probably a career backup at best...but a top Oline could make him look Brady like......................ever see Tom play a game where he didn't get Oline protection?...........he makes Allen look like a starter.

 

 

 

[ForJimmy]

I think we only draft one in the first if a talent like Tua or Burrow (won’t happen in a million years) falls to us. Outside of that we roll with Cam with Grier/Allen/FA/late round pick behind him. If Cam doesn’t work out next year there are already several qb prospects in Fields and Lawrence who we can look at. I’m with most people in saying we beef up our trenches this offseason. I mean Tepper said last year how important it was and it’s why we drafted Burns and Little.

[BrianS]

10 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

Aside from Cam Newton, name an Auburn QB who was successful in the NFL

Jason Campbell - 9 years in the NFL is pretty successful.

That aside, as other have said, our issue is not at QB, our issue is that both our OLine and DLine have been terrible this year.  Look no further than Nick Foles.  The guy is a career backup, but in 2018 he looked like a starter behind a really good Philly OLine.  Oh, and he won a SB.  So yea.  A QB who can succeed behind a crap line is a LOT harder to find than an OLine that makes an average QB look good.

 

[Happy Panther]

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php

Walter days we take a safety. FYI they predicted Burns in 2019...

[cmichd]

14 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

QB > OL

Never seen an OL win a SB before 

Seen them lose one cause they couldn't protect the QB...Look what happen in  SB50 and they had no answer for the speed rushers of Denver.  Oh who were as fast as Cam.

 

[Toker Smurf]

In that scenario I assume the Bucs would take Herbert, ahead of us.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

14 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

I’m sorry. But are there children roaming around this forum too? Thought it’d be adults only

Your lack of self awareness is truly spectacular

[cmichd]

22 hours ago, cmichd said:

Seen them lose one cause they couldn't protect the QB...Look what happen in  SB50 and they had no answer for the speed rushers of Denver.  Oh who were as fast as Cam.

 

You might think this is crap Forty Eight but even look at the next game they played.  Denver played mean and dirty and beat Cam up and down the whole game.  Sad part the Zebra's were on their side.....Cam has yet to play at the level he did before SB50.  2016 he didn't...2017 came close...2018 before Pittsburg came close but afterward didn't play at 2015 level and we all know about this year.  It is okay you don't like it but facts speak for themselves.  Cam can be a good QB a great one no.  He can't out physical NFL players like he did in college.

 

 

 

[onmyown]

On 12/5/2019 at 6:46 PM, Forty-Eight said:

QB > OL

Never seen an OL win a SB before 

Both teams Who made the super bowl in the past 10 years had a top 10 ranked oline. Most of which had a top 5.

Thats said I agree with a first round QB. But I also want us to keep Cam if he’s willing to play without an extension. But either way, drafting a QB in the first is a must for a lot of reasons. In fact, I think it’s pretty much guaranteed at this point.

[LinvilleGorge]

23 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php

Walter days we take a safety. FYI they predicted Burns in 2019...

Ton of sources predicted Burns to Carolina last year. It wasn't a very well kept secret that we really liked him.

I don't think QB is out of the question at all if the right guy is there, but given our roster needs I'd be very surprised if we didn't pick either a QB or a lineman, either offensive or defensive. As much as I'd love an elite safety and as much as I've been stumping for one for years, if we don't fix our trenches it just doesn't matter. He'll just be making lots of tackles 10+ yards down the field.

[Thunderbird037]

23 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020.php

Walter days we take a safety. FYI they predicted Burns in 2019...

I like Isaiah Simmons, but that blurb says he would replace Tre Boston which seems completely wrong (I can't see Simmons at Free Safety).  Would make more sense if we didn't bring back Shaq and drafted Simmons for his role.

[saX man]

If Tua checks out, there are 3 QBs that are at a really high level. 

Burrow, Herbert & Tua all look way more ready than the guys in recent years that are propped up during the draft process like Gabbert, Locker, Trubiski, Jones, etc. 

I wouldn't say they're on Luck or Cam "sure thing" pick status but they really pass the eye test more than the usual hyped QBs.  If we pick 8-10 and one is available, it would be hard to pass up that potential value.  I know we need an OL but if you have the chance to land a legit QB, go for it.  

Then we can look at peppering the rest of the draft with OL and DT picks. 

[saX man]

I however think the combo of DJ Moore and Jerry Jeudy is tantalizing.