Imagine just for a moment...

[JARROD]

I wish we had gotten Bruce Arians in 2011.

things would have been very different for Cam. I’m also sure the receivers here to help him early on would have been different and much better coached.

[Ricky Spanish]

Just now, JARROD said:

I wish we had gotten Bruce Arians in 2011.

things would have been very different for Cam. I’m also sure the receivers here to help him early on would have been different and much better coached.

Eh, not much better. Arians' critics of his plays are very similar to the critics of Shula: Deep drop backs, long developing routes, QB takes too many hits because the O-Line has to block too long, and low percentage downfield throws. 

Granted, I believe his offense runs better in general, but it's the other side of the same coin really. Cam still would have been abused, AND he would have had no idea what to do with Olsen. Arians has never done much with TEs. 

[BurnHurnBurn]

59 minutes ago, Kinographer said:

Doubtful. Part of the reason they reason they made us eat poo is how arrogant we acted all year long.

Really?  Seems like every team in the league is doing everything we did in 15 on a regular basis.

[Snake]

I really double Shula will ever be a OC again in the NFL. 

[mc52beast]

Are good OC’s so scarce that Shula is still employed? Would still like to kick Ron’s butt for keeping him around so long.

[JARROD]

3 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Eh, not much better. Arians' critics of his plays are very similar to the critics of Shula: Deep drop backs, long developing routes, QB takes too many hits because the O-Line has to block too long, and low percentage downfield throws. 

Granted, I believe his offense runs better in general, but it's the other side of the same coin really. Cam still would have been abused, AND he would have had no idea what to do with Olsen. Arians has never done much with TEs. 

I don’t know, he has Winston hit the tightend quite a lot. He often has good open routes to throw to— makes Winston look better than he is until he still falls apart.

Arians did wonders for the Steelers, Andrew Luck and Carson Palmer.

[BurnHurnBurn]

1 hour ago, Kinographer said:

Yeah it's normal now. But in 2015 we were pissing off pretty much everyone with the antics. Just to be clear, I loved it and 2015 was the most fun I ever had as a Panthers fan. Almost everyone else thought we were arrogant though.

Just ahead of the curve.  We made football fun.  Now everybody is jockin our swag, with no credit to the pioneers of drip.

But, we weren't punished for it, we were marginalized for the Manning farewell tour.

[GoobyPls]

9 hours ago, Mvp2014 said:

i saw a deep touch pass that went for a td and a laser pass for 25 yards in the combined 20 minutes of the game that i watched last night.  you couldnt be more wrong

Cam was second in the league in yards per completion. Lamar isn’t even top 10. In passes over 30 yards Cam had a top 5 passer rating, Lamar isn’t even top 15. 
 

You are blind if you think the offense were similar, he were a vertical downfield offense, the ravens are not

[Forty-Eight]

Who would hire Shula and Norv? Only Rivera. 
 

Who would hire Hurney? Only Richardson and Tepper

[Jangler]

these are not the imaginations of a sane person

 

[Moo Daeng]

12 hours ago, Forty-Eight said:

Who would hire Shula and Norv? Only Rivera. 
 

Who would hire Hurney? Only Richardson and Tepper

They've all been hired multiple times.

[bobowilson]

I wish Cam Newton had been half the "diva" people pretended him to be

Most QBs would have demanded a change in coaches or general managers, and used a trade request as leverage to get it done

Cam was too complacent as the people around him were happy to squander his career

He was twice the talent Lamar Jackson was, but always in the worst situations

[bobowilson]

23 hours ago, joemac said:

Well lets see if they can sustain success, or they are a one year, flash in the pan like we were.  The league is going to figure Lamar out, just like they figured Cam out.

No one ever figured out Cam, he just got injured

Falcons figured out they could exploit our terrible tackles with green dog blitzes (which Wade Phillips copied in the Super Bowl), but any half competent OC could have countered, but instead, Mike Shula was content to just keep doing the same thing over and over again as Cam accumulated a decades worth of CTE in one game

[Montsta]

On 12/13/2019 at 4:15 AM, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Also imagine Ravens fans watching that and saying "dadgum lamar get rid of the dang ball you ain't a running back.  remember back when we had good ol' joe? flacco wasn't flashy but he got the job done"

ridiculous right

Literally not one Raven fan would say that, just as not one Panther fan saw Cam after his MVP year and said man I wish we had Jake Delhomme back there. You’re reaching.