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"In order for me to leave, they got to get rid of me." - Cam

kungfoodude

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I would like to happen is whatever is whatever's best for the Panthers.

And what do you believe that to be?

If it were your call would you:

A.  Retain Cam?

B.  Trade Cam?

C.  Cut Cam?

(assumes Cam is healthy enough to play NFL football in 2020)

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6 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Nah. Might be a small chance but it ain't 0%.

No. It's 0% ..

Because even in the situation a team offered 5 first round picks .. we would trade a QB worth 5 first round picks? Not keep that QB worth a ransom for our own team?

And the other option would be trading Cam for two second rounders .. versus seeing if he can stay healthy .. of course we would never trade Cam for two second rounders instead of first seeing what he has in 2020

Annnnnd .. there is no chance Cam says I'm not playing this year because there's only one year left on my contract and I'm scared I might get hurt again

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I think the fact that we are willing to start Grier these last couple games also points to the idea that the team wants Cam to come back.  Let's face it, we aren't going to actually learn anything about Grier any more than we learned something about Kyle Allen in his first two games.

 

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27 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not really.

He's saying exactly what you'd expect him to say, same as when David Tepper says what he does. If you go back to previous stories, you'll find plenty of similar statements from players and owners that eventually ended up parting ways.

People looking for something to stake their claim on will take this and run with it whether it actually means anything or not.

I tend to agree with you on this one.

 

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2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah but then there is no reason to engage him. Let him have his say and just ignore it. He's pretty attached to his views on the Cam situation but just because he is doesn't mean we have to engage him in pitched battles. It's fine! Let him think what he thinks and the majority of the rest of us can celebrate this good news. 

Don't let a disagreement ruin your enjoyment of what, IMO, is really, really, really awesome to hear. Cam wants to be here!

Again, the info isn't mine. It comes from people who have been right way more often than not.

I get that people don't want it to happen. That doesn't really mean anything though. All the ranting, attacking and whatever in the world won't change things.

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6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's the thing...

I never said the decision was made. People act like I've said that, but I never did.

What I have said is that right now, the two sides are at cross purposes. Newton's people want the security of an extension and the Panthers aren't secure doing that. So unless one side changes their mind, they're probably going to wind up splitting.

Nothing about that is a done deal. It's just where things are right now.

And again, none of that is my info. It comes from people with way better connections than me.

I think you definitely are putting a little too much weight in those insider connections that perhaps are more attached to the previous and current negotiations than David Tepper and Cam Newton. And I will restate that Cam's agent is not Cam Newton. So things his agent states and he states are likely to differ, as are their views on his future. That isn't rare.

But, maybe that will end up happening and a split happens. We will see. IMO, if a split happens it will be motivated by the Panthers wanting to move on and not Cam Newton wanting to move on. I legitimately consider the notion of him holding out to force a trade to be a dead matter until something concrete says so(like him). 

It's fine. We don't have to agree on this.

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Compared to what? Starting Kyle Allen 16 games? Starting Will Grier 16 games? Starting a rookie QB 16 games? 

Are you seeing a less risky option at $19.1 million? Heck, are you seeing one at $15 million? $10 million?

Yepppp.  

I don't believe Cam or his agent believes he should have a new extension when he hasn't been healthy for almost two years.  I am betting Cam does not want another teams 2 years for 40 deal. No one is going to throw 100-150 mil at Cam right now.  IMO, in Cam's competitive mind, he is thinking, "fug that, Goff's sorry ass is getting 36 per year, I am about to show everyone and sign the biggest QB contract in 2020". 

Cam would be wise to take the 19.1 mil, and prove he can stay healthy. Then he has ALL the leverage for a super max. It would be different if that number was 4 million

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're assuming he's willing to play on that one year deal though.

As mentioned, that's not guaranteed.

.. In order for me to leave, they have to get rid of me ..

You think Cam Newton is the type to say "..I'm not playing with only one year left on my contract I'm afraid I might get hurt again.."

Listen .. Cam's set for life if he never gets another contract again, because schmucks like you will always try to tear him down because he's great but not white

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You're assuming he's willing to play on that one year deal though.

As mentioned, that's not guaranteed.

I think that is a dead matter. Cam said what he said and I will take that 10 times out of 10 over what some rumors of his agent or people or whatever said. He has given zero indication that he is posturing in his past. 

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10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I have said is that right now, the two sides are at cross purposes. Newton's people want the security of an extension and the Panthers aren't secure doing that.

On exactly what do you base this "at cross purposes" conclusion?

Are you getting this directly from your "insiders" because there's no public evidence of a contract dispute.  (possibly I missed it)

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