Which HC candidate do you trust more to adapt, adjust, and evolve more?

[rayzor]

Shorter title would have been, which HC candidate do you trust more to outsmart the other coach?

One thing that we have constantly seen going back the past couple decades is we really haven't had the luxury of saying our guy out coached or outsmarted the other team.

We've gone the "leader of men" route, which isn't necessarily a bad thing at all, but we haven't really had a coaching staff that could be considered the smartest guys on the field. 

We've got some potentially bright offensive minds heading our way and most of them make use of analytics and approach the game from a very scholarly and intellectual place, but most of them have been in limited situations and don't bring a whole lot of diversity or come from a variety of different offensive schemes. They are, for lack of a better way of putting it, pretty much one dimensional.

At some point, no matter how good you get in that one way you do things, something is going to break down. Either you get figured out, a key adjustment is made by the other team mid-game, or an injury forces you to do something differently. 

I think too often we've been exposed and our coaching staff has essentially been pantsed and while our britches are sitting there around our ankles and our eyes are like a deer caught in headlights, we get an embarrassing beating put on us. A game we thought we had in the bag gets blown up.

I would like to have a HC that looks at upcoming opponents and sees flaws and adapts what we do to capitalize on and exploit their weaknesses. I would like for a HC who won't need a certain type or group of players to fit thier scheme, but can take what we've got, and formulate winning plans out if them.

I'm not sure how many if you value this kind of person or ability, but if you did...who would be the best option?

[BurnHurnBurn]

McDaniels I guess?  Rings matter an hes got 'em.

 

:UPDATE:  KC OC Bienemy likes my QB so he be my new HC bo-ieeeee

[bobowilson]

Kevin Stefanski, the Ivy league graduate

https://zonecoverage.com/2019/minnesota-vikings-news/why-kevin-stefanski-might-be-the-nfls-next-great-offensive-coach/

[1of10Charnatives]

I think this is a great topic to discuss. I am pretty much right there with you that through both Fox and Rivera, this has been a major weakness of our coaching staff, and I would very much covet a coach who has this flexibility and.adaptability. I think overall younger coaches who lean towards analytics seem most likely to be successful with this going forward.

As much as my disdain for McDaniel is not exactly a secret, I have to admit that based on what we know of the candidates we’re considering, he seems most likely to bring this to the table. Bellicheck is known for being the master of formlessness as a football coach, committed to no particular style or system except winning, and very capable of producing highly customized gameplans taylored to each opponent.

To be honest of the four guys we’re looking at I know the least about Rhule since I don’t follow the college game nearly as closely, so anything I said about him would basically be a shot in the dark. Bienemy is the candidate I prefer overall, and while his intellectual capacity suggests he’s more than capable of this, there is more direct evidence to suggest McDaniel will put it into practice. McCarthy seems the most old school, one dimensional and inflexible of the guys we’re looking at. He has made some noises about wanting to include analytics more, but who knows if that’s lip service or not?

If we do end up hiring McDaniel, I will try to console myself with the hope he will bring this sort of acumen to the table, and if he does so successfully, I will probably end up feeling a lot better about having him as our coach. I still think Bienemy would be the better overall choice when you factor in leadership qualities, but in this specific area, McDaniel seems most likely to be proficient based on what we know.

[top dawg]

McDaniels, offensively anyway, I guess. The problem is that quality defenses took a nosedive as soon as he became HC.

I just think it's generally hard to know what a guy is going to be like until he's in the fire.

[WOW!!]

McDaniels.  That's all they do in New England.. Evolve and change game to game or half to half if needed. 

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

McDaniels.  That's all they do in New England.. Evolve and change game to game or half to half if needed. 

If they didn’t also cheat while being arrogant pricks, this would be the thing that would otherwise make me admire New England. They seem to evolve and change better than anyone.

[rayzor]

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Josh McDaniels’ Super Bowl Halftime Prediction Comes True On Key Second-Half Drives

by on Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:09PM

 

Though two quarters Sunday, the New England Patriots’ offense failed to do much of anything against the Los Angeles Rams in Super Bowl LIII.

 

Except, run a lot of plays that is.

While Maroon 5 lead singer Adam Levine danced shirtless at halftime, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels gathered his troops and drew the number “44” on the whiteboard, according to NBC’s Peter King.

That was the number of plays the Patriots ran in the first half while notching just three total points.

“That’s got to count for something,” McDaniels said. “That’s gonna pay off in the second half.”

New England’s offense continued to slog through the third quarter and into the fourth where the game remained tied at three with just under 10 minutes to play. That’s when McDaniels made his key adjustment, gathering his offense on the sideline and telling them they were about to do something that wasn’t in the game plan at all — go to their jumbo personnel.

“It was a pretty amazing thing,” tight end Dwayne Allen told King. “Hats off to the Rams. They really knew us. They played us great. But football’s about in-game adjustments. Josh told us on the sideline, ‘We did not practice this at all coming into this game, and I realize that, but this is going off in my head, and it’s something I think we need to do.'”

In order to get the Rams into their base 3-4 defense, McDaniels opted to go with a two-tight end look, along with fullback James Develin, running back Rex Burkhead and eventual Super Bowl MVP Julian Edelman.

The results were pristine.

https://nesn.com/2019/02/josh-mcdaniels-super-bowl-halftime-prediction-comes-true-on-key-second-half-drives/

[Reebis21]

3 minutes ago, rayzor said:

https://nesn.com/2019/02/josh-mcdaniels-super-bowl-halftime-prediction-comes-true-on-key-second-half-drives/

And see this is an example of an in game adjustment that I feel Carolina just hasn’t been able to see a lot of. It’d be a nice breath of fresh air. But I’m with a lot of ppl here that McDaniels himself still worries me. Defense and his personality have me shook.

[WarPanthers89]

McDaniels hands down:

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nesn.com/2019/08/do-your-job-part-iii-places-spotlight-on-bill-belichick-josh-mcdaniels-relationship/amp/

 

Nearly two decades later, Belichick essentially gives McDaniels free rein to craft the Patriots’ offensive scheme as he sees fit.

“I give him a little bit of input, but 90 to 95 percent is his plan, his vision,” Belichick says. “Rarely do we see things that differently. But sometimes there will be things that I suggest. Sometimes he’ll say, ‘I think that would be great,’ and sometimes he’ll say, ‘I don’t really think this is the right time for us to do that. Here’s the reason why.’ And he’s usually right.”

[Waldo]

McDaniels seems to have the total positive package but also a larger negative personality. It could work really well or blow up. Bienemy looks intelegent and capable but with a much better personality. Don't know a lot more about the guy but he sounds like a fanastic coach. They both sound groomed for HC. It's going to be interesting on how this plays out and what the Browns do to the process in the next few days.

[steven8989]

4 hours ago, bobowilson said:

Kevin Stefanski, the Ivy league graduate

https://zonecoverage.com/2019/minnesota-vikings-news/why-kevin-stefanski-might-be-the-nfls-next-great-offensive-coach/

Not an option

[steven8989]

3 hours ago, rayzor said:

https://nesn.com/2019/02/josh-mcdaniels-super-bowl-halftime-prediction-comes-true-on-key-second-half-drives/

I'm 110 percent sold. We have never done this in any Panthers game.

[DeAngelo Beason]

4 hours ago, Reebis21 said:

And see this is an example of an in game adjustment that I feel Carolina just hasn’t been able to see a lot of. It’d be a nice breath of fresh air. But I’m with a lot of ppl here that McDaniels himself still worries me. Defense and his personality have me shook.

I'm just saying I have literally pulled the same strategies in Madden and had great success.  

 

Bring me in Tepper.