How does the Rhule hire help us strategically?

[rayzor]

Those of you who like this guy, sell me on how he helps us outsmart our opponents.

Because that's just something we haven't had in at least the last two coaching staffs.

I was led to believe that analytics was going to be an important part of the decision making process and that having an aggressive or at least progressive offensive mind was desired.

Does this guy have it? If he does, show me, because I don't like this feeling we made an epic mistake.

So far all I've seen is that he believes the players should be healthy (duh) and that his strength is essentially coaching up a team of Rudy's. Taking garbage players and turning them into average Joe's by inspiring then or whatever.

Seriously, I'm not trying to poo poo the decision. I just want to be sold on an aspect I think is important and that I'm afraid we just missed out on because a coach who built his reputation on motivating people motivated Tepper to give him a 7 year deal to the tune of about $65mil.

(Btw, I think anything more than a 5 year deal is a mammoth mistake for a HC).

[Khaki Lackey]

I don’t disagree with anything you posted and I’m wondering the same things. The one encouraging thing I’ve found is that he was quoted as saying something to the effect of “hating the RPO but needing to do it to win.”

at least he seems willing to be adaptive, which is more than I can say for Ron. So at least there’s that...Right? Help.

[The Huddler]

I think a lot of your questions will be answered today at the press conference 

[TheRumGone]

https://footballscoop.com/news/matt-rhule-came-grips-rpo-game-smash-mouth-coach/
 

this is basically the only thing I can really find on anything analytical, what percentage of plays work during different down and distance and his willingness to adapt to what he sees as the right way to play the game. This dude is a ton like Rivera but willing to adapt to what is needed to win (RPO) He is not an offensive minded coach. He’s a win in the trenches and run the ball, control the game. Honestly I’m not seeing much of a difference from him and Rivera. Rivera allowed us to run college spread/ RPO’s with Cam. My hope is that he is just overall a better game manager than Ron. Because he severely lacked in that department.

[Tbe]

This doesn’t answer your question (I don’t  know), but I’m not paying attention to that 7 year number. I really just think that is Teppers way of playing nice with the other owners. 60 divided by 7 looks way better than 60 divided by 5. 
 

Tep is going to spend money freely to do what he wants. Not resetting the coaching market completely is his way of playing nice.

[rayzor]

Just now, The Huddler said:

I think a lot of your questions will be answered today at the press conference 

I don't put a lot of stock in introductory press conferences. Rivera sounds aggressive when he's trying to sell/market himself, but when it's game time, that foot is on the brakes.

I want/need evidence.

[Paa Langfart]

There will be no real answer to whether or not this was a good hire for at least a couple of seasons of football.  That is reality.

[rayzor]

9 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

https://footballscoop.com/news/matt-rhule-came-grips-rpo-game-smash-mouth-coach/
 

this is basically the only thing I can really find on anything analytical, what percentage of plays work during different down and distance and his willingness to adapt to what he sees as the right way to play the game. This dude is a ton like Rivera but willing to adapt to what is needed to win (RPO) He is not an offensive minded coach. He’s a win in the trenches and run the ball, control the game.

I guess it helps a little. I like that he goes against what comes to him naturally, but the fact that it doesn't come to him naturally is bothersome. 

He's not coming across as aggressive. 

[TheRumGone]

Just now, rayzor said:

I guess it helps a little. I like that he goes against what comes to him naturally, but the fact that it doesn't come to him naturally is bothersome. 

He's not coming across as aggressive. 

He goes for it on 4th down quite a bit specifically tells his coordinators you need this much yardage for a 4th down play on 3rd down. Not sure if that will change in the NFL. Also

“Kevin Gilbride taught me great offenses are never a play late. Bad offensive staffs always talk about what they’re going to call next.”

[stan786]

This is my read on the situation after reading like 30 articles and listening to a dozen interview with Rhule yesterday, because I started out totally unsure. The is definitely some sugar coating from me but I think overall it’s clear why we hired him and what he brings to the table.

I think this hire is a lot about Tepper establishing his brand of football on the organization. One of the biggest things you hear Rhule talk about is his “process of sustained greatness”. He wants to come in and use data and process in player acquisition, health, and development. Its pretty clear Tepper is sticking by his hope that he can create a culture or a mix of smart and old school football he loudly desired in his presser, and this guy fits it to a T. Still not sure that means it’s good but at least he’s being honest.  Also I believe that’s where the 7 year contract comes from, Rhule is going to get a LOT of rope to come in here and develop a process that Tepper is clearly in love with, so buckle up.

In terms of Baylor he wasn’t coaching up a bunch of Rudys. The Baylor process was built on developing overlooked and raw athletes. He put a onus on using data and numbers to identify these prospects with top tier athletic traits and their goal was to project where they thought the player could develop to while deciding who to take. While the kids were overlooked they all were definitely not Rudy. He understood the need to get players with tools, he also was a good enough coach to develop them, which yes college but I still feel is very important.  I’d definitely imagine this is the end of us drafting the Gauldens of the world, but does that mean we are going to be the Raiders going forward where a fast 40 moves you wildly up our boards I don’t know.

In terms of on the field coaching you’ll read yes he’s old school and he likes running the ball and yes he believes in trenches and all that. That doesn’t mean he’s married to it, he’s shown he’ll willingly go out of his comfort zone to learn and implement things that will help him win.  He still uses data in understanding what works when calling it in certain situations, he understands the best way to be successful on third down is to not get to third down, etc.  He doesn’t bury his head in the sand like some on here propose.

Now I do agree I’m not sure how aggressive he is and that worries me, I think we will have games we want to murder him with how he gets conservative late or whatever.  I just think the biggest thing I can take from him is he’s clearly willing to learn and to evolve regardless of how he likes to play the game, and he wants to use information to help him in all phases.  Does that mean he’s going to listen to data on every fourth down and two point conversion? No. Is he the perfect candidate? No. But he’s exactly what Tepper told us he wanted in his presser the more you listen to him.

[Moo Daeng]

He appears to be smart and that would be good for outsmarting the opponent. I'm not sure it's any more complex than that. 

 

[TbTeRRoR]

We shall use half trained / half wild velociraptors  on offense 

 

 

 

tell me he doesn't remind you of this guy

[The Huddler]

11 minutes ago, rayzor said:

I guess it helps a little. I like that he goes against what comes to him naturally, but the fact that it doesn't come to him naturally is bothersome. 

He's not coming across as aggressive. 

how does he go against something that comes to him naturally when it doesn't come to him naturally? 

[raz]

6 minutes ago, The Huddler said:

how does he go against something that comes to him naturally when it doesn't come to him naturally? 

techniques