Corona Virus

[45catfan]

31 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

Yep. Deaths are going down, which shows spikes in cases does not correlate to deaths. 

A few things here.  Firstly and most importantly, the medical community knows how to treat this better than they did 3 months ago.  Initially, if people had a good amount of trouble breathing, a vent was the go-to method.  That has been shown to have horrendous results.  There are several methods of treating this now as long as the patients are not too advanced in their sickness.

Secondly, we know that testing was scarce initially and the number of tests were tied to those being admitted to the hospital for COVID-19...even then they were only taking the most dire cases.  Many of those people died.  So yes, the early deaths rates looked scary as heck!

Lastly, if you quarantine the entire country cases are going to be predictably less than not closing things down. However, society can't be cordoned off forever, so as the country reopened, of course cases were going to spike.  Minimizing exposure does NOT eradicate the virus, it just delays the inevitable until vaccine is developed and widely available.

Edited June 29, 2020 by 45catfan

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

I'm pretty sure he loves New York's leaders - because, team sport.

I know his game and ignore him most of the time, but the really, really dumb takes I like to call him out on them.

[LinvilleGorge]

26 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

Yep. Deaths are going down, which shows spikes in cases does not correlate to deaths. 

You have to have no understanding of statistics what so ever to arrive at a conclusion like this.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

Has it not been explained a million times that deaths lag cases by weeks

[stirs]

38 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Real men wear masks. 

So now you are a Dick Cheney fan?

[stirs]

10 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Has it not been explained a million times that deaths lag cases by weeks

How many?

was 11 days, then 2 weeks, then 2-3 weeks.

Riots and protests and openings started 5 weeks ago.  Just sayin'

[stirs]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You have to have no understanding of statistics what so ever to arrive at a conclusion like this.

Look at the graphs I posted and give us all a lesson.  Really, if it is that simple, give the answers

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, stirs said:

How many?

was 11 days, then 2 weeks, then 2-3 weeks.

Riots and protests and openings started 5 weeks ago.  Just sayin'

They will be saying that until November.  Just wait 3 more weeks, you will see!!!!!

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, stirs said:

Look at the graphs I posted and give us all a lesson.  Really, if it is that simple, give the answers

Dude, masks kills COVID-19 and hiding in the basement makes it go away, why are you still not on board with this?

[Devil Doc]

12 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You have to have no understanding of statistics what so ever to arrive at a conclusion like this.

Really? I just totally just took a shot in the dark at this comment? I have been following this Virus since March. Tell me.. is Positive Cases, Testing, and deaths equally correlated? Lets say deaths are are lagging by cases.. they still do not equally correlate. The improvements in testing, healthcare, experience, medicine has drastically lowered the death rate. 

[stirs]

The problem with most is that they mix their politics in with statistics, and it never adds up.

Okay, not many people, including me, think much of Trump.  So give it a rest.  Talk numbers and virus, not fear based opinions based on an election year.  Except for 4 Corners, he is a hopeless political case

[Devil Doc]

4 minutes ago, stirs said:

The problem with most is that they mix their politics in with statistics, and it never adds up.

Okay, not many people, including me, think much of Trump.  So give it a rest.  Talk numbers and virus, not fear based opinions based on an election year.  Except for 4 Corners, he is a hopeless political case

If the numbers from March and April, were the same in May and June. it would be totally different on the numbers and deaths etc. The news props up New Cases, but will not tell you how many recovered. The news props up how many have died, but does not tell you the percentage, or underlying causes. The news will also not tell you how many have had the anti-body test, how many does not experience symptoms, or tells you the probability of living. It is all death, death, sickness, gloom and death. 

 

[45catfan]

7 minutes ago, stirs said:

The problem with most is that they mix their politics in with statistics, and it never adds up.

Okay, not many people, including me, think much of Trump.  So give it a rest.  Talk numbers and virus, not fear based opinions based on an election year.  Except for 4 Corners, he is a hopeless political case

Not going to happen, so don't count on it.

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

If the numbers from March and April, were the same in May and June. it would be totally different on the numbers and deaths etc. The news props up New Cases, but will not tell you how many recovered. The news props up how many have died, but does not tell you the percentage, or underlying causes. The news will also not tell you how many have had the anti-body test, how many does not experience symptoms, or tells you the probability of living. It is all death, death, sickness, gloom and death. 

 

It's amazing the number of outlets where you can easily find accumulative case counts and number of deaths, but you have to really dig to find the number of recovered cases.    Secondly, you would think total case count (while important) would be secondary to the active case count.  But, you know, that doesn't drive headlines and fear mongering.