Corona Virus

[Shufdog]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

No you can't be completely safe, that is obvious.  It's about reducing the risks.  It's a very simple concept, easy to follow and really not a big deal to put on a mask for 30 mins to an hour while you're shopping.

No, going to the store wearing one is no big deal. Try wearing one for 10 - 12 hrs when it's hot and you're doing strenuous work.

[Happy Panther]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

We're way too interconnected with interstate commerce. That's why we need widespread efforts. Local efforts aren't enough. The vast majority of the cases genetically trace to the original NYC outbreak. Unfortunately, the virus doesn't understand or respect man-made barriers like state lines.

Maine currently requires visitors to have a test or quarantine for 14 days. It is enforced by hotels, BNB, campgrounds etc. NY and NJ and maybe CT have suggested doing the same. I understand it can't be completely enforced but it would help. 

[4Corners]

28 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

What is interesting is a few states may be recovered enough to start having fans this fall while it looks like others don't have a chance. Giants and Jets maybe. Cardinals hell no.

It’s not fair to allow some stadiums to have fans and some not. NFL will have to allow fans at games (which may be out of their control) or play in empty stadiums. Some team will end up getting screwed and have to play more games than anyone else on the road with full stadiums. 

[4Corners]

Did I see this correctly - did the EU ban Americans from traveling there? I guess you know who got his travel ban after all. 

[Moo Daeng]

28 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Did I see this correctly - did the EU ban Americans from traveling there? I guess you know who got his travel ban after all. 

Americans have been restricted from entering since the beginning. However, as they ease restrictions Jul 1, travel from the US is still not permitted. There is a specific list of countries that will be granted access.

I never should have left Thailand in March. This place is a dump.

Edited June 30, 2020 by Moo Daeng

[cookinbrak]

1 hour ago, Happy Panther said:

What is interesting is a few states may be recovered enough to start having fans this fall while it looks like others don't have a chance. Giants and Jets maybe. Cardinals hell no.

Eventually NY will get caught lying about numbers and  hiding bodies

 

[Ounce]

Why do people always point to the # of new cases charts to back up their "panic"?  Isn't the scientific explanation that case/positive test count has risen because testing coverage/volume has increased.  This is the chart that ultimately matters:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19?country=~USA

Edited June 30, 2020 by Ounce

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Ounce said:

Isn't the scientific explanation that case/positive test count has risen because testing coverage/volume has increased.  

No. It absolutely isn't. If that was the case, percentage of positives would be rapidly declining. They're actually increasing in a lot of areas despite more testing.

[Wes21]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

No. It absolutely isn't. If that was the case, percentage of positives would be rapidly declining. They're actually increasing in a lot of areas despite more testing.

The number of positive tests has been associated with a lower positive percentage.  

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/usa

[Moo Daeng]

20 minutes ago, Ounce said:

Why do people always point to the # of new cases charts to back up their "panic"?  Isn't the scientific explanation that case/positive test count has risen because testing coverage/volume has increased.  This is the chart that ultimately matters:

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-deaths-covid-19?country=~USA

Percent positive tests are trending up.

[LinvilleGorge]

20 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

The number of positive tests has been associated with a lower positive percentage.  

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/usa

LOL. Take another look at the graph and the current trend.

[Wes21]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

LOL. Take another look at the graph and the current trend.

So just disregard the larger data set?

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Wes21 said:

So just disregard the larger data set?

I said positive rates are increasing. That is factual. I didn't say positive rates are increasing from all-time highs. These aren't difficult concepts, man. 

[jfra78]

16 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Percent positive tests are trending up.

In the beginning you almost had to be dying in order to get tested.  Now just about anyone can get tested, including asymptomatic people who would have never been tested before. Deaths is also misleading because there have been advances in treatment.