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3 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

Doesn't the cold water cause your sphincter to clinch? How clean can it be if it's tightened up?

no, not at all.  if you relax and get the proper angle you can fill your ass with water and shoot it out like a squirt gun on annoying house guests

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country

H1N1  Was pretty bad, but nowhere near the hysteria we see now.

We have like 40 deaths associated with it here in the US, little over 5000 in the world.  Who knows, might get much worse, but again, China seems to be coming out of it, or are not being truthful.  If they are doing better, they the 1.7 million death talk might be a bit dramatized.

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Northern Guilford High School north of Greensboro has been shutdown for cleaning. Guilford county school board in an emergency meeting. Students have been in contact with a potential Coronavirus patient.

https://www.greensboro.com/news/education/update-northern-high-school-and-gateway-education-center-closed-for/article_f1a18fd8-5461-555f-9140-c8b49532f217.html

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10 minutes ago, stirs said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country

H1N1  Was pretty bad, but nowhere near the hysteria we see now.

We have like 40 deaths associated with it here in the US, little over 5000 in the world.  Who knows, might get much worse, but again, China seems to be coming out of it, or are not being truthful.  If they are doing better, they the 1.7 million death talk might be a bit dramatized.

our trajectory is exactly in line with italy's.     we are 11 days behind them and even with our limited testing we have just over the number of cases they had at the exact same point.    obviously i have no idea what will happen, but there isn't reason yet to think we will deviate from the trajectory

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Just now, stirs said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic_by_country

H1N1  Was pretty bad, but nowhere near the hysteria we see now.

We have like 40 deaths associated with it here in the US, little over 5000 in the world.  Who knows, might get much worse, but again, China seems to be coming out of it, or are not being truthful.  If they are doing better, they the 1.7 million death talk might be a bit dramatized.

The places where cases are leveling off or decking are places that have taken aggressive measures. IMO, it's not a reason to take this lightly, it's a reason to implement our own aggressive measures. 

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5 minutes ago, raz said:

our trajectory is exactly in line with italy's.     we are 11 days behind them and even with our limited testing we have just over the number of cases they had at the exact same point.    obviously i have no idea what will happen, but there isn't reason yet to think we will deviate from the trajectory

Not taking lightly, just heartened by the curve in China

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1 minute ago, stirs said:

Not taking lightly, just heartened by the curve in China

if you have time check out some of the stories from the people of wuhan.  they were left with no care, no medical supplies, no way to get care, and no food.  americans will not stand for what has happened and is happening there.  and believing the govt of china about anything is a risky proposition

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

IMO, China, South Korea, Singapore, etc. show that mitigation efforts work. We're way behind on them, but it's better late than never.

yeah, should have added s korea is a great example of what to do, and life is not easy there right now.  there are some q&a's and stories you can find from people living there on reddit and other places about what its like - and italy too - and like our own guy on this board in italy - it is terrifying

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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

NC has 15 confirmed cases, probably tons more.  Same with every other state.  At first, that makes it terribly scary and might be the doom we all dread, or, it could be that many are not that ill, don't even know they have it. 

I watch the numbers above several times a day on linked website.  If China and other countries are lying, then we know nothing anyway, but if people are telling the truth, then there are paths out of this mess.

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