I've lost belief in Tepper already. Rhule too. Best of luck to the greatest, most impactful player in Panthers' history, Cam Newton..

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, RJK said:

One minute they want cam, then they don’t. This staff has been jerking around the team leader all offseason and believe me other players notice and remember that poo 

Wrong--one minute, they were forced into saying, "Let's talk when he gets healthy."  You all cheered.  Some of us saw through that.  Public statements are fluff--designed not to tip hands, make negotiations difficult, enrage fans. It is like being flattered when a salesman gives you a compliment.

Some of us analyzed the news clips and videos and pointed it out---you were examining what was said (understandably) and we were examining what was not said.  It does not me there is joy in being accurate (could change tomorrow)--we were guessing what was going to happen. 

[CRA]

30 minutes ago, Steve_Smith_Sr. said:

I get lots of people love Cam, but let's at least give Teddy a chance.  He did pretty well with the Saints last year.  

Saints have one of the top OLs in the NFL.  And Teddy made a lot of easy throws. 

[CRA]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

Hurney is garbage. We've known that for a long time. whether or not he stays around and in what capacity is still up in the air, so there's that.

 

Hurney has always been a weak GM BUT....I do find it surprising he has allowed Cam to be so poorly handled.   As one of his perceived strengths was more relationships and loyalty rather than business. 

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

Saints have one of the top OLs in the NFL.  And Teddy made a lot of easy throws. 

And let's hope that is the plan here.  We have to have an OL.

[Shocker]

Hate to see Cam go but all this change is fuggin awesome in my opinion.  Team was so damn stale the last few years.   Not anymore.

[Varking]

12 minutes ago, Ship said:

Read any article about Rhule being a program builder, making decisions for the team, what Tepper thinks of him, etc. That’s my back up. Your assumption that Rhule sits in a closet and waits to hear how the team is doing from Hurney of all people is insane and backed up by nothing.

You literally just made another incorrect assumption. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Hurney has always been a weak GM BUT....I do find it surprising he has allowed Cam to be so poorly handled.   As one of his perceived strengths was more relationships and loyalty rather than business. 

While I'd be the last person to ever defend Marty Hurney, I don't know how much he has to do with it.

Jourdan Rodrigue said at the time of Rivera's firing that if the decision had been up to Marty and Ron, Newton would have already had an extension. It was Tepper that nixed the idea.

[Ratzer]

I'm done with this franchise. Greets from Germany. 

[thefuzz]

11 minutes ago, RJK said:

One minute they want cam, then they don’t. This staff has been jerking around the team leader all offseason and believe me other players notice and remember that poo 

No lies, at all from what I've heard and seen.

If you are naive, you can look into those statements and see what you want to see, many of us were warning you guys about the verbiage, and the qualifiers....many of you got angry with us for doing that.

[TheRed]

When you've got Newton, Olsen, and Turner chirping on Twitter about your org being two faced, that's not a good look no matter how you cut it.

[MountaineerChemist10]

42 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

Our franchise is run by a bunch of drunks.  I tried to buy in on Rhule, but if this is his plan, it sucks.  And at this point, under Tepper, all I see are breadcrumbs that lead me to believe he is an impulsive, meddling owner - to a much greater degree than JR was.  I dont really get a sense of a master plan at the end of all these seemingly random impulse moves, but rather a rich big boy who gets to tear down his playset and then fix it how he likes, just to tear it down again.  

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.  I understand Cam was hurt the last few years, and ironically not from all of the running he did over the years that everyone was worried about, but in fact because he couldnt be protected in the pocket by two different GMs.  But, if he returns to form, he is 2000x the player Bridgewater is and 10,000x the player Allen is.  If he returns to form, you're getting an MVP caliber player for relative peanuts.  Letting Cam go at this juncture feels like a mistake of a move that we're going to regret down the line.

Back to Bridgewater - to add further insult to injury, nothing against Teddy, but Cam fell out of favor after repeatedly getting injured behind a porous OL.  Cam, at 6'5" 260 lbs, couldn't stay healthy.  Now you expect the same GM to build said OL to keep a much more slight-framed Bridgewater healthy, all while paying him quite handsomely...  and mind you, Bridgewater also doesnt have the escapability of arm strength of a Cam...  seems like a solid plan.

And furthermore, not only do I think you're botching the on-field product up,  ut you really couldn't have done much worse in the optics and presentation of all of this.  We went from he's gone, to "I'm gonna win a Superbowl with him," to Cam declaring with absolute certainty that he was led to believe he would be back, to Hurney being non-committal, to now today, our team signing an inferior replacement and then telling Cam publicly to go find another team while thanking him for how great he is.  Sloppy.

I will always be a Panthers fan, but I feel less invested than ever before.  I'm just tired of bad move after bad move and stupidity running rampant, regardless of who is in charge.  We'll see how all of this plans out, and maybe Bridgewater ends up being fine...  as Panthers fan, we have to pull for him and the best outcome, but man, this just looks and feels bad.

And finally, thank you for all you have done here, Cam.  You are a legend of untouchable stature now and forever.  In your prime, there never has been and never will be anyone like you.  In a gladiator's sport, you were the ultimate gladiator...  one who could put an entire team of 52 other players on your back and carry them to the endzone, time and time again.  It has been an honor to see you grow, mature, and become the incredible player and humanitarian you have become - all while wearing the black and blue.  There will never be another Cam Newton - the greatest player in Panthers' history.  Period.

 

[CRA]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

While I'd be the last person to ever defend Marty Hurney, I don't know how much he has to do with it.

Jourdan Rodrigue said at the time of Rivera's firing that if the decision had been up to Marty and Ron, Newton would have already had an extension. It was Tepper that nixed the idea.

well, I do think Marty is a "yes" man.  I mean, he took the brunt of the holdout no pays and then crazy contracts that immediately followed back in the day....but I always believed that was JR more than Hurney.   

I kinda hope Cam ends up in Washington.   I still like Ron.  Still like Cam.  I was born and raised a Skin fan like so many others around here.  Give me something to watch and pull for while we waste away. 

[thefuzz]

9 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Wrong--one minute, they were forced into saying, "Let's talk when he gets healthy."  You all cheered.  Some of us saw through that.  Public statements are fluff--designed not to tip hands, make negotiations difficult, enrage fans. It is like being flattered when a salesman gives you a compliment.

Some of us analyzed the news clips and videos and pointed it out---you were examining what was said (understandably) and we were examining what was not said.  It does not me there is joy in being accurate (could change tomorrow)--we were guessing what was going to happen. 

Agree with this.

There were qualifiers everywhere, folks just don't like to see them.

Unfortunately, I have to speak with qualifiers ALL the time in my real job, so I spot them pretty quickly when I hear, and see them.

[Ship]

6 minutes ago, Varking said:

You literally just made another incorrect assumption. 

Maybe actually write something of substance guy