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QB Draft Rankings a Year* Out


Evil Hurney

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It seems like every year we hear about a fan base clamoring for their team to "Suck for Luck" or "Tank for Tua", but how well can we really predict the QB field a year in advance? Is it worth it to tank?

With those questions in mind, I used archive.org and walterfootball (since they consistently rank position groups a year early) to compile the top 5 QB rankings roughly 1 year before the draft. For example, the 2019 top 5 is from roughly May of 2018.

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The lack of top tier NFL QBs on this list should concern anyone wanting to plan on tanking an entire season for one guy, but you are free to come to your own conclusion.

 

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Great post. Yup we were 'suck for Luck' then he went back to school.. 

Very interesting to see that list and how few of those guys actually became stars. Good reason to play to win and develop a winning culture than thinking a draft can fix all your problems. 

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If we build through the draft it has the same effect as tanking but doesn't burden us with bad FA contracts. We will be picking high again next year and that's fine, we need the talent. As far as tanking for a player, there are so many problems with that logic and all of that has been hashed over many times here. 

Now, the question which is incredibly difficult, is next year's draft class to be likely better or worse than this years? I don't know and I'm not wowed by any QBs in this draft. I certainly wouldn't trade more picks for any of them. I don't see the Mahomes and the guy likely to go #1 I will cheer when we don't have to worry about years of that. 

We just don't have to do any more harm to ourselves intentionally to try not to win, we did enough of that already frequently missing on drafted players and team building under the last regime. All we have to do is get good players in this draft, keep building smartly around them and stop chasing the last missing piece that makes us do things like sign Kalils & Paradis' to large contracts and draft Littles while wasting extra draft picks on guys headed in the bust direction (yeah it's early but it's also not looking good yet).

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Thing is, "suck for Luck" got us Cam. Just because the guy you identified a year ahead of time doesn't pan out, doesn't mean that trying to grab a franchise QB at the top of the draft is a bad idea. Some years that guy is there, others he isn't. 

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Just now, Thama said:

Thing is, "suck for Luck" got us Cam. Just because the guy you identified a year ahead of time doesn't pan out, doesn't mean that trying to grab a franchise QB at the top of the draft is a bad idea. Some years that guy is there, others he isn't. 

We actually sucked at drafting which is what got us Cam. Pickles was so bad that there wasn't even a question of need at QB in 2011. I still don't think it was intentional but more of who was involved and how defunct our operating was at that time. What Miami is doing is straight tanking and I will laugh when it doesn't work because bad teams do bad things and the more difficult the master plan the more likely it will fail.

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I mean, Lawrence would have been the consensus number one since his freshman year. Sometime a super stud shows up. Lawrence is that stud. He would have been the number one guy if he could come out in this draft, he would have been the number 1 last draft, and he will be the number one guy next year's draft. Anyone that doesn't see that is just kidding thrmselves.

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You can see qbs like Trevor Lawrence come very rare , guys been the best ever since he played football , he’s in the same category as Peyton Manning . He has the smarts , arm strength, accuracy ability to scramble, size . He’s hands down someone we haven’t seen in over a decade .hes also a winner brought Clemson to two straight titles . No one thought some surfer looking freshman would beat tua and a great bama defense 

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20 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

I mean, Lawrence would have been the consensus number one since his freshman year. Sometime a super stud shows up. Lawrence is that stud. He would have been the number one guy if he could come out in this draft, he would have been the number 1 last draft, and he will be the number one guy next year's draft. Anyone that doesn't see that is just kidding thrmselves.

No kidding. That post is a joke. How many Suck for Lucks have their been?

I hope these super fans who’d never possibly want to tank, like we’ve done before kicking off SB runs, enjoy our mediocrity while some other lucky team gets a franchise QB.

Hey, Teddy will get us there and if not I’m sure the QBs we keep taking later in the draft will pan out eventually.

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