Do we have any idea who has more say this weekend? Rhule or Hurney?

[FuFuLamePoo]

Any of you have any ideas or educated guesses?

When we hired Rhule didn’t we sell him on having a lot of “organizational control”? And Hurney’s contract is almost up and there was that thread last week that he could be on his way out after the draft. If that’s true why would it make sense to give him literally anything say at all?

On the other hand, Panthers beat writers seem to think it’ll be Brown because it’s a “total Hurney pick.”

[4Corners]

I can tell you who doesn’t have any “say” this weekend....Old Man Richardson. 
 

[Tbe]

Hurn dog has final say. We can’t risk hurting his feelings.

[nogoodbum]

Tepper

[FuFuLamePoo]

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Hurn dog has final say. We can’t risk hurting his feelings.

Hate this team lmao

[WarPanthers89]

Neither. As part of the agreement when the team was sold, both coach and GM must rub the head of the statue outside the stadium and consult the oracle. Only then will a player be chosen.

 

[45catfan]

20 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Any of you have any ideas or educated guesses?

When we hired Rhule didn’t we sell him on having a lot of “organizational control”? And Hurney’s contract is almost up and there was that thread last week that he could be on his way out after the draft. If that’s true why would it make sense to give him literally anything say at all?

On the other hand, Panthers beat writers seem to think it’ll be Brown because it’s a “total Hurney pick.”

I have to disagree 100%.  If Gettleman was still here, I would concur.  Simmons screams Hurney. Better athlete than football player.  Marty loves him versatile, athletic players, especially when it comes to guys outside of the trenches.

[Waldo]

I don't know but if Hurney wasn't involved at some level of the process, unfortunately at all involved, then why is he still here? None of the dots really connect right now and I am eager to know how much more that guy can inflict his miserable job skills on the team in any way.

My guess is at this time he is anywhere from a fully functioning GM working with the HC and owner to a subordinate of the owner and HC. If he turns out to be a lame duck GM then we will know this weekend because we all know what a Hurney draft looks like and not having one of those would be a huge positive going forward.

[theinstrumental]

It had really better be Hurney. Hurney's had his eyes on the entire draft process while Rhule spent his time coaching at Baylor, moving to NC, getting a staff together, etc. It would be organizational malpractice to keep the GM on a lame-duck deal and not even let him make the decision that he's there to make. The coach should have input as always, but the GM has to be the GM.

[FuFuLamePoo]

5 minutes ago, theinstrumental said:

It had really better be Hurney. Hurney's had his eyes on the entire draft process while Rhule spent his time coaching at Baylor, moving to NC, getting a staff together, etc. It would be organizational malpractice to keep the GM on a lame-duck deal and not even let him make the decision that he's there to make. The coach should have input as always, but the GM has to be the GM.

Yes, letting the guy draft who is literally terrible outside of round 1 instead of our bright young head coach seems like a plan destined for success

[steven8989]

Yeah I do know Hurney is calling in picks from what I read from yesterday. He might know he is on the way out and makes some shitty first rd pick to fug with organization. Then there is nothing we could do about it. Then he drops the mic and is out. Lol

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Yes, letting the guy draft who is literally terrible outside of round 1 instead of our bright young head coach seems like a plan destined for success

The question: could it really be that much worse? comes to mind. At least Rhule has the hope of learning from his mistakes and Hurney is the mistake at this point.

[Pejorative Miscreant]

I think Hurney has the “position of decision maker” but Rhule has the “influence of the decision”. 

i see this in a lot of clients I work at. People are in a position of power but the actual decision comes from somewhere else.  Not exactly a lame duck or weak leader but more of a deferential type process.  

[RASTAN66]

1.  Tepper

2.  Rhule

 

 

 

 

 

8.  Hurndog 

 

Some thoughts from the other day:

Hurndog has no autonomy, he is not functioning as a General Manager akin to what John Lynch or Brandon Beane or Bill Belichik do on a daily basis.  The GM title is something Tepper has chosen to leave in place out of convenience.

Decisions are being made collectively --- Hurndog has a seat at the table and his functions are to gather information and present it, along with an opinion --- but he has no authority to make solo decisions on anything that matters.