Person “Rhule was open to and eager to trade down in first”

[mrcompletely11]

The Riot report says that a team offered a 2021 first to move up.  If we would have gotten a 2020 first and a 2021 first then Hurney is a moron

[AU-panther]

I'm sure Rhule liked the idea of adding 2 very good players instead of just one, even if the single player is slightly better.  The goal is to have best team, not the single best player.

Hurney on the hand went with the safe pick.  You aren't going to lose your job for picking Derrick Brown 7th.  Even if he is a colossal bust, nobody is going to fault you for that pick because everyone agrees he is a good pick.

On the other hand if you trade down and pick CeeDee Lamb and Jordan Elliot and if they don't work out you get second guessed by everyone.

[mrcompletely11]

On the most recent riot report contract they discussed that during the draft the bucs wanted to move to 7 and offered their first this year and next. Rhule wanted to but hurney vetoed.  Why in the hell wouldn't you do that?

[GOAT]

24 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

On the most recent riot report contract they discussed that during the draft the bucs wanted to move to 7 and offered their first this year and next. Rhule wanted to but hurney vetoed.  Why in the hell wouldn't you do that?

because their guy was available?

[mrcompletely11]

42 minutes ago, GOAT said:

because their guy was available?

Then that is bad strategy and classic "win now" Hurney mentality. 

[Panthercougar68]

When was the last time a division team traded picks with a division team. There’s probably more behind it then you think.

[AU-panther]

29 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

When was the last time a division team traded picks with a division team. There’s probably more behind it then you think.

I've never understood the concept of not trading with division rivals.  You make a trade based on the assumption you are helping your team, and usually one team wins and the other loses.  If you plan on winning the trade then the team you traded with loses which would be even better if it was division rival.

Personally I think it is a classic example of GMs making decisions based on not looking stupid.  Less chance of not getting second guessed.

 

[panther4life]

12 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Then that is bad strategy and classic "win now" Hurney mentality. 

Or the Riot report is mistaken.Peter King was given access to the Bucs war room in the first round. 
 

https://www.pewterreport.com/bucs-licht-tried-to-trade-into-top-10/

“But the 49ers weren’t the first team that the Bucs tried to negotiate a deal with. Licht was on the phone with teams as early as the ninth pick with Jacksonville, trying to trade up for one of the top four offensive tackles. According to King, Licht had an offer of the Bucs first (No. 14), third (No. 76) and fourth (No. 117) picks on the table to Jacksonville for No. 9 overall. The Jaguars declined, opting to stay put and draft Florida cornerback C.J. Henderson.“

The Bucs also spoke with the Browns and Jets, but neither were interested in moving back with tackles they liked still on the board. Licht even received an inquiry to move much further back from Minnesota, which he quickly rejected.

With the Raiders on the clock at No. 12, King reports that Licht offered Las Vegas GM Mike Mayock the Bucs first, third, fifth and sixth round picks while getting the Raiders first and third round picks back. Mayock opted to stay put even if Tampa upped their offer, so strong was his desire to select Alabama WR Henry Ruggs.

[GOAT]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Then that is bad strategy and classic "win now" Hurney mentality. 

That makes no sense.

[RASTAN66]

On 5/10/2020 at 7:03 PM, panther4life said:

Or the Riot report is mistaken.

Is that the travel agency? 

[CPF4LIFE]

So basically other teams decided to stay put and draft their guy but hurney is the dumbass?