Mahomes gets a 10 year deal.

[MechaZain]

9 hours ago, CatTower said:

Dude is going to make a billion in career earnings before he retires.  For throwing a football once a week half the year.   To put that in perspective, a teacher in Missouri making average wage of 50k would have to work for 20,000 years to get the same career earnings.  Football is overrated.       

If the teacher made a billion dollars for their school they could get a $500m deal too 

[Cookie Lyon]

[CatTower]

1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

If the teacher made a billion dollars for their school they could get a $500m deal too 

 

[bababoey]

The way the cap is going to go in the next few years this may be a baragin sooner rather than later.  They get to add a 17th game next year and new TV deals will start a year or 2 after that.  If the cap increases 20 to 30 million a year for the next 2 or 3 years the way many say it might, Mahomes deal could look like a baragin by year 4.

[Wes21]

7 minutes ago, bababoey said:

The way the cap is going to go in the next few years this may be a baragin sooner rather than later.  They get to add a 17th game next year and new TV deals will start a year or 2 after that.  If the cap increases 20 to 30 million a year for the next 2 or 3 years the way many say it might, Mahomes deal could look like a baragin by year 4.

I don't think $40-$50M a year is going to look like a bargain in the near future.  

[bababoey]

34 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

I don't think $40-$50M a year is going to look like a bargain in the near future.  

The current cap is 200 million.  If it goes up, the way most say in will 20 - 30 million a year for the next 3 years the cap could be 290 million by 2023.  That's basically a 50% increase.  So all these current QB deals that are getting 30 million a year would be equivalent to 45 million in 2023.  That's what Mahomes is getting now.  So lets say Daniel Jones signs a new deal in 2023 for 45 million a year.  Would you rather have Daniel Jones for 6 years at 45 million or Mahomes for 7 more years at 45 million?  No matter how good Jones turns out to be that should really not be a question.

[Wes21]

2 minutes ago, bababoey said:

The current cap is 200 million.  If it goes up, the way most say in will 20 - 30 million a year for the next 3 years the cap could be 290 million by 2023.  That's basically a 50% increase.  So all these current QB deals that are getting 30 million a year would be equivalent to 45 million in 2023.  That's what Mahomes is getting now.  So lets say Daniel Jones signs a new deal in 2023 for 45 million a year.  Would you rather have Daniel Jones for 6 years at 45 million or Mahomes for 7 more years at 45 million?  No matter how good Jones turns out to be that should really not be a question.

If someone signs an inferior QB to a huge money deal, that's on them.  I just can't see a scenario in the next 5 or so years where $40-$50M will look like a "bargain."  I understand the concept and for so many years it worked out like that.  But the current set of QB deals are so large and they seem to move up with the cap rather than tailing off or even flattening.

https://overthecap.com/player/patrick-mahomes/5594/ 

[Whatev]

Awesome for Mahommes. Well deserved.

[bababoey]

18 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

If someone signs an inferior QB to a huge money deal, that's on them.  I just can't see a scenario in the next 5 or so years where $40-$50M will look like a "bargain."  I understand the concept and for so many years it worked out like that.  But the current set of QB deals are so large and they seem to move up with the cap rather than tailing off or even flattening.

https://overthecap.com/player/patrick-mahomes/5594/ 

Brady signed a 4 year $72 million contract in 2010.  Largest contract in the history of the NFL at that time.  How does that deal look now?  The money for contracts for players and TV deals always goes up, it never goes down.

[Riverboat Ron]

Lock him up! Lock him up!

[Wes21]

39 minutes ago, bababoey said:

Brady signed a 4 year $72 million contract in 2010.  Largest contract in the history of the NFL at that time.  How does that deal look now?  The money for contracts for players and TV deals always goes up, it never goes down.

Let me say this again in the way I'm saying it.  I understand the idea of what you are talking about and I've seen it before.  However, recent deals...including this one...don't seem to be the kind of deal that becomes a "bargain" down the road.  QB cap hits are going to need to get well into the $60-$80M range in the near future for Patrick's contract to be a "bargain," and I just can't see that happening.

 

[carpanfan96]

Since Bret Farves major contract in 2001, the highest paid QB's generally take up roughly 18-19% of the salary cap. Based on expected growth and current cap numbers, Mahomes contract is generally 18.75% of the total cap over life of the deal. Obviously if growth isn't what's expected that could change but this is probably the value QB's will be getting over the next few seasons. 

[bababoey]

42 minutes ago, Wes21 said:

Let me say this again in the way I'm saying it.  I understand the idea of what you are talking about and I've seen it before.  However, recent deals...including this one...don't seem to be the kind of deal that becomes a "bargain" down the road.  QB cap hits are going to need to get well into the $60-$80M range in the near future for Patrick's contract to be a "bargain," and I just can't see that happening.

 

I see what you are saying I just don't look at it that way.  Right now Mahomes is the best QB in the game and he is 24 I think.  Assuming he never gets any better, which he should, the minute he becomes the 2nd highest paid QB in the game and he is under 30 he becomes a bargain. 

[Wes21]

14 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Since Bret Farves major contract in 2001, the highest paid QB's generally take up roughly 18-19% of the salary cap. Based on expected growth and current cap numbers, Mahomes contract is generally 18.75% of the total cap over life of the deal. Obviously if growth isn't what's expected that could change but this is probably the value QB's will be getting over the next few seasons. 

The better model seems to be to do what the Chiefs did to get to this point.  If you have a high dollar vet QB, get rid of him and draft a young stud.  Then try to win the Super Bowl during his rookie contract.