Does anyone actually believe Tepper has a clue what he’s doing

[yasuhara2241]

He played it smart in my opinion. He gave old coaching staff 2 years or so. It didn't pan out. So he set course for a whole new gameplan in the year some good qbs are coming up in the draft. 

He is building facilities for the team to give a competitive advantage, gave us a practice bubble in the meantime and is trying to build up Rock Hill but also Charlotte. 

Not to mention, new young staff for this modern world. 

Only negative I see is Hurney but then again who knows what the future is for him. 

[Drk89Wng]

Some sports team owners do not equate winning to profitability. Let’s see where he falls in the next few years. 

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

So if you weren't a fan or happy with the current ownership/regime you'd jump ship and find a new team? Doesn't sound like a true fan to me.

You dont have to blindly follow a team and act like a Franchise cant make a wrong decision. You dont have to talk yourself into thinking that every decision they make is a good one. Doesn't make you any less of a fan to use your brain and your own judgements. Blindly following a team like you suggest is just a sheep mentality but hey to each their own.

Thus far, Tepper has been a terrible owner. He retained Marty Hurney as GM after cleaning house (terrible decision) didnt even bother to look for a replacement like he said he was going to. Fired Rivera midseason. Hired a HC with Zero NFL experience. Gave up on the franchise QB WAY to soon only to replace him with garbage. And he's meddlesome in football operations with zero football background. Red flag after red flag. He has no clue what hes doing.

After all of that am I still a fan of this team? Of course I am. I just cant wait until most of the core coaches/players are replaced/fired. Because this group is not winning a Championship anytime soon especially under Teppers "Guidance"

These red flags aren’t as bad as you are making them out to be. I hated releasing Cam, but apparently every other team thinks he is an injury risk as well and we weren’t about to try him for a 3rd year in a row at $20 million. The contract he signed doesn’t come close to what we would have paid him. Rivera needed to be let go, might as well do it right away and see what kind of staff was around him. The last thing we needed was him winning a few meaningless games making it more difficult to fire him. Retaining Hurney, I could see either way. This Hurney has been better at contracts and it looks like Rhule was overseeing a lot of the draft now, so you don’t have to worry about his 2nd/3rd round misses... Rhule was a hot candidate whose specialty was rebuilding, which seems like a good match to me. I see you no NFL experience point though...

[TheSpecialJuan]

Remember when Tepper fingered his wife's ass?  From that day forward this man became a God to me. 

[kungfoodude]

3 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

So a man with different opinions than yours, is a red flag. 

Good to know. 

He did things that don't have a good track record of success in the NFL.

1. Kept Marty Hurney.

2. Hired a college coach with almost no NFL experience.

Feel free to look up the past 30 years of examples of both those actions. 

[Happy Panther]

3 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

He did things that don't have a good track record of success in the NFL.

1. Kept Marty Hurney.

2. Hired a college coach with almost no NFL experience.

Feel free to look up the past 30 years of examples of both those actions. 

2011 49'ers might be pretty close. And they went 6-10 the year before.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

2011 49'ers might be pretty close. And they went 6-10 the year before.

I am not saying there aren't outliers. Hurney had good seasons but the overwhelming bulk of the results(college coaches to the NFL and Marty Hurney) is not positive. 

My point being, we are gambling big on things that don't have a track record of success. Not just one, multiple.

Do I like Rhule? Yes. Do I want to him to succeed? Absolutely.

Am I highly, highly, HIGHLY skeptical of it happening? For. Sure. 

[Happy Panther]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

I am not saying there aren't outliers. Hurney had good seasons but the overwhelming bulk of the results(college coaches to the NFL and Marty Hurney) is not positive. 

My point being, we are gambling big on things that don't have a track record of success. Not just one, multiple.

Do I like Rhule? Yes. Do I want to him to succeed? Absolutely.

Am I highly, highly, HIGHLY skeptical of it happening? For. Sure. 

Yeah it was a counterexample.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Happy Panther said:

Yeah it was a counterexample.

And, also, Harbaugh had YEARS of NFL experience. Rhule does not and a decent chunk of his staff does not. 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

These red flags aren’t as bad as you are making them out to be. I hated releasing Cam, but apparently every other team thinks he is an injury risk as well and we weren’t about to try him for a 3rd year in a row at $20 million. The contract he signed doesn’t come close to what we would have paid him. Rivera needed to be let go, might as well do it right away and see what kind of staff was around him. The last thing we needed was him winning a few meaningless games making it more difficult to fire him. Retaining Hurney, I could see either way. This Hurney has been better at contracts and it looks like Rhule was overseeing a lot of the draft now, so you don’t have to worry about his 2nd/3rd round misses... Rhule was a hot candidate whose specialty was rebuilding, which seems like a good match to me. I see you no NFL experience point though...

Fair points EVERYONE is entitled to an opinion and just because someones opinion differs from yours about the current state of the team doesn't make them any less of a fan. (This was the point I was trying to make in that post)

Onto the first point of your argument. The thing with Cam is you really have to look at his situation and the state of the NFL at the time of his release. It's not like he was let go in the initial FA releasings and was on the FA market as soon as FA started. He was let go well into the 2nd even 3rd wave of FA and most teams do not wait that long to address the most important position in football unless they hold a high draft pick and plan on selecting one. Teddy Bridgewater started only 3 games more than Cam last year and I'd say his injury was 100% more gruesome/worse/career threatening than ANY of the injuries Cam has suffered to this point in his career and we signed him to a $63 million contract. Sure, you could argue his injury was years ago but is 5 games really that much to say Teddy's knee is completely healed and worth mortgaging $63 million on? Wouldn't it have made more sense to see what our former MVP could do? That kind of logic just destroys that narrative of "We aren't sure if Cam will be able to recover from his injuries" when they hand $63 million to a guy like Ted, someone who has never been able to pass for more than 14 Tds in a single season...

Hurney also should have been let go or at least moved into a different role. The only reason the "Fire Hurney" crowd stopped their witch hunt was because he really couldn't have screwed up this draft like he screwed other drafts in years passed. Literally every pick was a defensive player. There should have at least been SOME interviews and he should have possibly taken on more of a "consultant" role than full time active GM that just doesn't make sense to me.

Rhule is probably not as big of a deal because he was such a hot commodity. However, it feels VERY much like Chip Kelly 2.0 and also there really hasn't been very many successful college head coaches that have been able to make that transition. He also has very little NFL experience behind him in the coordinator roles.

At the very least it will be interesting to see what happens. I just can't buy-in to the fact that Tepper has any sense that he knows what he's doing or went into this with an actual plan, rather just throwing sh*t at the wall to see if it sticks. He seems to have the personality of the latter IMO.

[pantherclaw]

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

He did things that don't have a good track record of success in the NFL.

1. Kept Marty Hurney.

2. Hired a college coach with almost no NFL experience.

Feel free to look up the past 30 years of examples of both those actions. 

Neither one is a red flag. But don't let that stop you from banging your drum. 

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, pantherclaw said:

Neither one is a red flag. But don't let that stop you from banging your drum. 

I mean, doing an action that has repeatedly proved to be unsuccessful is a big red flag. But I suppose Redskins fans thought all those giant free agent contracts that Snyder loved to shell out early in his ownership days were awesome too.

[pantherclaw]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I mean, doing an action that has repeatedly proved to be unsuccessful is a big red flag. But I suppose Redskins fans thought all those giant free agent contracts that Snyder loved to shell out early in his ownership days were awesome too.

Tepper hasn't repeated any action. 

 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Tepper hasn't repeated any action. 

 

Read the posts again. Eventually you will get it.