TEDDY SUCKS

[mav1234]

55 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

I actually saw a deep ball and mobility yesterday..

The athleticism/ mobility stuff is crazy. Teddy isn't some immobile statue back there.  Hes in the top 10 for QB rushing yards and on fewer attempts than anyone above him other than Russell Wilson. He's not amazingly athletic but he's good enough to move around and get some yards when needed.

Hes no Cam Newton for sure, but few QBs can run like Cam can.

[mav1234]

5 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

 

A lot of us said this might be the case.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cam looked shot yesterday.  Shoulder and his running ability 

Not gonna judge off a single game when he's recovering from an illness.

How much of the season he'll last is a valid question, but he's not showing any definitive bad signs just yet.

[Cpt slay a ho]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cam looked shot yesterday.  Shoulder and his running ability 

And here folks is someone who didn’t watch the game. 

[CRA]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not gonna judge off a single game when he's recovering from an illness.

How much of the season he'll last is a valid question, but he's not showing any definitive bad signs just yet.

he was coming off COVID and not practicing for 2 weeks.  Think Cam gets a little pass given how he has looked the rest of the season. 

but he ran well, joined Vick in 5000 club and had a strong day on the ground. 

[Varking]

2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

If we go 75 yards and Teddy throws for 45 and CMC or Davis runs it in, it’s worth the same number of points. 

That’s true. But we have scored less offensive touchdowns than every team in our division. Last place in offensive touchdowns passing and  rushing.
 

Did you know Carolina leads the league in 20-29 yard field goals? We are 8 for 8. No other team has attempted more than 5. 

We are tied for third on 30-39 yard makes. 
 

Where do we rank in kicking extra points? Only Washington, Denver, Giants and the Jets have less extra points than us. 

[Oldmanrivera]

3 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Cam looked shot yesterday.  Shoulder and his running ability 

Shot? Lol ok

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Varking said:

That’s true. But we have scored less offensive touchdowns than every team in our division. Last place in offensive touchdowns passing and  rushing.
 

Did you know Carolina leads the league in 20-29 yard field goals? We are 8 for 8. No other team has attempted more than 5. 

We are tied for third on 30-39 yard makes. 
 

Where do we rank in kicking extra points? Only Washington, Denver, Giants and the Jets have less extra points than us. 

Now the onus is on you to present the case that our red zone woes are on Teddy. Not sure what games people are watching who say “Gosh, Teddy needs to start throwing it into the end zone”. Every time they show a replay after a failed red zone play, either all our receivers are completely locked up or our o-line gets blown up at the point of attack. The only success we seem to have in the red zone is when we do those cutesy little bootleg plays where the RB or TE sneaks out and ends up completely uncovered.
 

As much as I like Brady...when our red zone offense is an issue week after week after week, that’s typically on coaching/playcalling.

[Varking]

33 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Now the onus is on you to present the case that our red zone woes are on Teddy. Not sure what games people are watching who say “Gosh, Teddy needs to start throwing it into the end zone”. Every time they show a replay after a failed red zone play, either all our receivers are completely locked up or our o-line gets blown up at the point of attack. The only success we seem to have in the red zone is when we do those cutesy little bootleg plays where the RB or TE sneaks out and ends up completely uncovered.
 

As much as I like Brady...when our red zone offense is an issue week after week after week, that’s typically on coaching/playcalling.

That’s not how this works. I provided stats to show we don’t score well. If you want to debunk what I wrote or dig further then that would be up to YOU or somebody else to provide those numbers. 

If the “cute” plays work and nothing else does then it sounds like Brady can draw up a solid red zone play but the players aren’t executing on them. DJ dropped on in the end zone that I hated. Teddy could have had an easy score running one in. Instead of moving left or right he took a defender head on and got clobbered. That was a boneheaded move on Teddy. 

I could likely do it later. I don’t believe the issue is Brady when that is almost strictly what he called in college. He was the red zone guy. They had somebody else calling plays before the red zone. But again, if you want to challenge what I wrote, feel free to not do it off of opinion and find all the numbers yourself. 

[*FreeFua*]

38 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Now the onus is on you to present the case that our red zone woes are on Teddy. Not sure what games people are watching who say “Gosh, Teddy needs to start throwing it into the end zone”. Every time they show a replay after a failed red zone play, either all our receivers are completely locked up or our o-line gets blown up at the point of attack. The only success we seem to have in the red zone is when we do those cutesy little bootleg plays where the RB or TE sneaks out and ends up completely uncovered.
 

As much as I like Brady...when our red zone offense is an issue week after week after week, that’s typically on coaching/playcalling.

I’m convinced Varking doesn’t actually watch the games and just checks the box scores. 
 

It’s never anything more than stats without context with him.

[LinvilleGorge]

40 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Now the onus is on you to present the case that our red zone woes are on Teddy. Not sure what games people are watching who say “Gosh, Teddy needs to start throwing it into the end zone”. Every time they show a replay after a failed red zone play, either all our receivers are completely locked up or our o-line gets blown up at the point of attack. The only success we seem to have in the red zone is when we do those cutesy little bootleg plays where the RB or TE sneaks out and ends up completely uncovered.
 

As much as I like Brady...when our red zone offense is an issue week after week after week, that’s typically on coaching/playcalling.

I might be inclined to agree if this wasn't on ongoing theme of Bridgewater's career. Windows get a lot smaller in the redzone. You gotta fit that ball into some tight spots. 

[*FreeFua*]

There’s a touchdown pass...

Oh wait nvm 

[Varking]

23 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I’m convinced Varking doesn’t actually watch the games and just checks the box scores. 
 

It’s never anything more than stats without context with him.

Stats matter.

Teddy Bridgewater is 13/24 for 54.17% completions inside the 20.

Teddy Bridgewater is 6/14 for a 42.86% completions inside the 10. 
 

For the record I not only watch every Panther game every year since I moved here 11 years ago but I’ve attended one regular season game every single year and literally every single home playoff game the Panthers have had since. Pretty sure I’ve posted a picture of me at a game on TV against the Jags during the crazy downpour when everyone went to get dry, my friend and I stayed in the rain in the front row on the 50 yard line and got Olsens wide receiver gloves. 
 

Take note that the post before yours I described a play during the game yesterday where Teddy had one defender to beat before it would be a TD and he took on a defender like he is some sort of power runner and you come back with: it’s always stats without context with him. I provided context. You ignore it. It doesn’t matter what evidence people provide that Teddy currently isn’t showing he is a franchise QB, you just want to talk trash about posters because you can’t argue with the numbers being provided to you. That’s what people do when they have no ground to stand on. They no longer attack your points, they attempt to, inaccurately and ignorantly, attack the poster. 

[MasterAwesome]

38 minutes ago, Varking said:

That’s not how this works. I provided stats to show we don’t score well. If you want to debunk what I wrote or dig further then that would be up to YOU or somebody else to provide those numbers. 

If the “cute” plays work and nothing else does then it sounds like Brady can draw up a solid red zone play but the players aren’t executing on them. DJ dropped on in the end zone that I hated. Teddy could have had an easy score running one in. Instead of moving left or right he took a defender head on and got clobbered. That was a boneheaded move on Teddy. 

I could likely do it later. I don’t believe the issue is Brady when that is almost strictly what he called in college. He was the red zone guy. They had somebody else calling plays before the red zone. But again, if you want to challenge what I wrote, feel free to not do it off of opinion and find all the numbers yourself. 

So you’re not making the argument that we struggle to score touchdowns because of Bridgewater, just that we simply struggle to score touchdowns? Wow, quite an astute point there...excellent contribution. Guess we’re in agreement then.

If your shtick is to simply post stats and never have the balls to make any kind of argument that is supported by said stats, then your services are probably better off on a site like Wikipedia instead of a discussion board.