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1 minute ago, Woodie said:

Oh, I know.  I just used your post to respond in general about the idea that he is looking like a meddling owner.

Generally speaking again, the truth is that every owner is involved with team decisions to some degree.  The problem is when the owner takes on a lead voice, but doesn't have the expertise to make intelligent and knowledgeable decisions...basically, Jerry Jones.  The thing I like about Tepper, is that he has that aggressiveness and willingness to do whatever it takes to build a Super bowl contender. However, he also seems to recognize his lack of expertise and lets those that are actually qualified make the actual decisions...and when he sees those individuals are not up to the task, he is not shy about moving on from them.  

I can just hear him at the table---hedge fund managers think outside the box and they take risks.  If anything, he would empower the brain trust to take risks if they feel it will produce a solid return. Instead of looking over their shoulders and second guessing themselves, they are looking for the moment to make their move.  When I said, "calling the shots" (I was leaving and wanted, for some reason, to send out that message) I was actually happy that he was telling them what he wanted--I doubt many doubt we need a QB, but for the owner to be pounding the table, we will do it. 

So your take is on point.  I am a Tepper fan.  I love how he made his money--it takes balls, skill, and intelligence to do that--what we are looking for in a QB.

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5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Mariota--not a bad thought.  A lot of people trash the qbs that are highly rated, drafted early, and then go to some terrible team.  They become 21-year old saviors for an entire city/state and are often drafted early because the front office sucks.  Having said all that, there is something to be said about a guy who can play with talent around him.  A guy who has sat on the bench for a few years.  A student of the game. 

When I saw him play one game this year, he was not the same QB he was in Tennessee.  I have a friend on the Raiders team and he loves Mariota.  He says that he thinks Mariota is better than Carr.  Said he is fast, has a good, accurate arm, and the players like him.

He is 27 and mobile. When he came out, was he as good as Wilson?  Lance?  Fields?  Give him some protection and weapons, and he could surprise some folks.  To me, he is the hidden gem of free agency--the Tanneyhill. 

Mariota has an 89 career qb rating and 62% completion rate.  I think both increase here once we get the OL together.

He might be cut--the salary cap figure for him is $11m, so it is possible we could sign him without losing a pick or a trade. 

WFT loves him, and that is where he is projected to go if anywhere---

The pick is not getting the QB he has been, but it is picking a skill set that possibly might prosper in this system. 

Just a thought for those who like draft picks and keeping our best players.

This is where being a good talent evaluator is so important.  It's easy to see the struggles a player has on the field, but what is tougher is looking past that to the actual reasons for those struggles, and determining if you can either correct or work around them.

 

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10 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Mariota--not a bad thought.  A lot of people trash the qbs that are highly rated, drafted early, and then go to some terrible team.  They become 21-year old saviors for an entire city/state and are often drafted early because the front office sucks.  Having said all that, there is something to be said about a guy who can play with talent around him.  A guy who has sat on the bench for a few years.  A student of the game. 

When I saw him play one game this year, he was not the same QB he was in Tennessee.  I have a friend on the Raiders team and he loves Mariota.  He says that he thinks Mariota is better than Carr.  Said he is fast, has a good, accurate arm, and the players like him.

He is 27 and mobile. When he came out, was he as good as Wilson?  Lance?  Fields?  Give him some protection and weapons, and he could surprise some folks.  To me, he is the hidden gem of free agency--the Tanneyhill. 

Mariota has an 89 career qb rating and 62% completion rate.  I think both increase here once we get the OL together.

He might be cut--the salary cap figure for him is $11m, so it is possible we could sign him without losing a pick or a trade. 

WFT loves him, and that is where he is projected to go if anywhere---

The pick is not getting the QB he has been, but it is picking a skill set that possibly might prosper in this system. 

Just a thought for those who like draft picks and keeping our best players.

Here's a thought - why would be at the top of any FA QB's list?

We're pushing Bridgewater out of the door after one average season. I'd be hesitant to sign on the dotted line with such a franchise if I had other options.

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1 minute ago, Woodie said:

This is where being a good talent evaluator is so important.  It's easy to see the struggles a player has on the field, but what is tougher is looking past that to the actual reasons for those struggles, and determining if you can either correct or work around them.

 

We need an evaluator who can match the skill set to the system and gauge the potential for success.  We (Huddlers) look at stats and scoreboards and say, "He sucks."  But at one time, Mariota was one of the top 2 QBs in college football.  I do not see bust in this case, I see bad fit.  But I am not an expert--which is why I like to hear alternative opinions and I do not care for the armchair GMs who think a  QB at 22 is better than a veteran at 27.  There are a lot of QBs in the NFL that have resurrected their careers in a new town with a new coach.  This year, with all the movement looking for Watson, R Wilson, top 4 draft picks, somebody is going to overlook a player that simply needs the right fit.  I wish I had the eye to know who and where.

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Here's a thought - why would be at the top of any FA QB's list?

We're pushing Bridgewater out of the door after one average season. I'd be hesitant to sign on the dotted line with such a franchise if I had other options.

I am not sure what you mean--I just throw ideas out to stretch our thinking on it.  I do not visit the Huddle to have my narrow-minded opinions confirmed.  I am wrong too much---I really do not understand the thought/question.  I think I know what you meant, and I am not endorsing this as option A. I am not even endorsing it at all--just thinking it through from a positive perspective.

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4 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Idk is this legit or just rumors? 

No clue, I was hoping someone on here knew if it was legit. It is lining up with what Verge was saying. The only bad part is the Texans have to agree to trade him, that’s why I think the chances are slim. Houston probably won’t trade him. I hope I’m wrong

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