Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

This is not "big news"

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Woodie Newbie

Woodie

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Mariota--not a bad thought.  A lot of people trash the qbs that are highly rated, drafted early, and then go to some terrible team.  They become 21-year old saviors for an entire city/state and are often drafted early because the front office sucks.  Having said all that, there is something to be said about a guy who can play with talent around him.  A guy who has sat on the bench for a few years.  A student of the game. 

When I saw him play one game this year, he was not the same QB he was in Tennessee.  I have a friend on the Raiders team and he loves Mariota.  He says that he thinks Mariota is better than Carr.  Said he is fast, has a good, accurate arm, and the players like him.

He is 27 and mobile. When he came out, was he as good as Wilson?  Lance?  Fields?  Give him some protection and weapons, and he could surprise some folks.  To me, he is the hidden gem of free agency--the Tanneyhill. 

Mariota has an 89 career qb rating and 62% completion rate.  I think both increase here once we get the OL together.

He might be cut--the salary cap figure for him is $11m, so it is possible we could sign him without losing a pick or a trade. 

WFT loves him, and that is where he is projected to go if anywhere---

The pick is not getting the QB he has been, but it is picking a skill set that possibly might prosper in this system. 

Just a thought for those who like draft picks and keeping our best players.

This is where being a good talent evaluator is so important.  It's easy to see the struggles a player has on the field, but what is tougher is looking past that to the actual reasons for those struggles, and determining if you can either correct or work around them.

 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
OldhamA Grand Master

OldhamA

Posted
Posted
10 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Mariota--not a bad thought.  A lot of people trash the qbs that are highly rated, drafted early, and then go to some terrible team.  They become 21-year old saviors for an entire city/state and are often drafted early because the front office sucks.  Having said all that, there is something to be said about a guy who can play with talent around him.  A guy who has sat on the bench for a few years.  A student of the game. 

When I saw him play one game this year, he was not the same QB he was in Tennessee.  I have a friend on the Raiders team and he loves Mariota.  He says that he thinks Mariota is better than Carr.  Said he is fast, has a good, accurate arm, and the players like him.

He is 27 and mobile. When he came out, was he as good as Wilson?  Lance?  Fields?  Give him some protection and weapons, and he could surprise some folks.  To me, he is the hidden gem of free agency--the Tanneyhill. 

Mariota has an 89 career qb rating and 62% completion rate.  I think both increase here once we get the OL together.

He might be cut--the salary cap figure for him is $11m, so it is possible we could sign him without losing a pick or a trade. 

WFT loves him, and that is where he is projected to go if anywhere---

The pick is not getting the QB he has been, but it is picking a skill set that possibly might prosper in this system. 

Just a thought for those who like draft picks and keeping our best players.

Here's a thought - why would be at the top of any FA QB's list?

We're pushing Bridgewater out of the door after one average season. I'd be hesitant to sign on the dotted line with such a franchise if I had other options.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
MHS831 Grand Master

MHS831

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Woodie said:

This is where being a good talent evaluator is so important.  It's easy to see the struggles a player has on the field, but what is tougher is looking past that to the actual reasons for those struggles, and determining if you can either correct or work around them.

 

We need an evaluator who can match the skill set to the system and gauge the potential for success.  We (Huddlers) look at stats and scoreboards and say, "He sucks."  But at one time, Mariota was one of the top 2 QBs in college football.  I do not see bust in this case, I see bad fit.  But I am not an expert--which is why I like to hear alternative opinions and I do not care for the armchair GMs who think a  QB at 22 is better than a veteran at 27.  There are a lot of QBs in the NFL that have resurrected their careers in a new town with a new coach.  This year, with all the movement looking for Watson, R Wilson, top 4 draft picks, somebody is going to overlook a player that simply needs the right fit.  I wish I had the eye to know who and where.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
MHS831 Grand Master

MHS831

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Here's a thought - why would be at the top of any FA QB's list?

We're pushing Bridgewater out of the door after one average season. I'd be hesitant to sign on the dotted line with such a franchise if I had other options.

I am not sure what you mean--I just throw ideas out to stretch our thinking on it.  I do not visit the Huddle to have my narrow-minded opinions confirmed.  I am wrong too much---I really do not understand the thought/question.  I think I know what you meant, and I am not endorsing this as option A. I am not even endorsing it at all--just thinking it through from a positive perspective.

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
The Lobo Grand Master

The Lobo

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, BurnNChinn said:

Idk is this legit or just rumors? 

No clue, I was hoping someone on here knew if it was legit. It is lining up with what Verge was saying. The only bad part is the Texans have to agree to trade him, that’s why I think the chances are slim. Houston probably won’t trade him. I hope I’m wrong

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted
15 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

For what it’s worth, it was posted one hour ago, maybe others haven’t had time to fact check?

Meaning they don't like we have their own sources, so they'd have to get it from somewhere.

For what it's worth, Aaron Wilson did say a short time ago that Watson liked the Dolphins a lot as an option.

He mentioned the Panthers as interested but said nothing about Watson's feelings toward us.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • cookinbrak
      Canes vs Caps Rd 2 Gm 5 7pm

      By cookinbrak · Posted

      To all the analysts who said "Caps in 5", thank you for telling us their departure time.
    • Matthias
      Tet McMillan signed to Jordan Brand

      By Matthias · Posted

    • ImfromClayton
      The Bryce Trade is Finally Complete. Who Won the Trade? Panthers vs Bears

      By ImfromClayton · Posted

      We won't know the answer to this for a long time. Reality is, Caleb has been the consensus #1 in that draft for years. Bryce was a similar situation, but mostly the same. He was not the clear and obvious #1 that Caleb was, but most teams had Bryce at QB1. The Panthers were always going to be terrible Bryce's rookie year.  I don't think DJ Moore's presence would have changed anything about that offense, as our guards, center, and left tackle were getting demolished on nearly every snap. It's clear Caleb's dad was trying to do everything possible to ensure Caleb didn't end up in Chicago with Eberflus. It's hard to imagine that he wouldn't have done the same, but probably more publicly with our situation, considering Carolina is an easier target for the media than Chicago. We can all speculate, but it's impossible to tell who is going to have the better career on May 16, 2025. If either QB doesn't pan out, we have an easy answer. If both flame out, the bears clearly won the trade, but it wouldn't have really mattered anyway. We all know how we win the trade. Candidly, even if one of the other picks we gave up ends up being a hall of fame player, we don't know if the panthers would have taken that player anyway. All you can do is make the best decision you can in the moment with the information you have. I really like Bryce Young, and I'm glad he's a Carolina Panther.  The only way to win in the modern NFL is to have an absolute dude at QB. I personally am happy that our franchise recognizes this, as I remember times when they did not. 
×
×
  • Create New...