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Report: Deshaun Watson would OK trade to Carolina Panthers


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25 minutes ago, joemac said:

LOL Houston is NONE of those thing though…

Texans have 6 division titles in previous 10-seasons -- Panthers have 3.

Texans have 7 winning records in last 10-seasons -- Panthers have 3.

Panthers have 7 losing records in last 10-seasons -- Texans have 3.

Texans made 6-playoff appearances in last 10-seasons -- Panthers with 4 including one where they fluked in with a losing record.

FYI.

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2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

There's 0% chance they're starting the season with AJ McCarron under C.

If I was them, McCarron would actually be my 4th option.

1 = Watson after he changes his mind

2 = Start a QB received in a Watson trade

3 = Start a QB drafted with a pick acquired in Watson trade

If I traded Watson, received no QB back in the deal, and say I had pick 8 and wasn't sold on any QB left on the board, go to option 4

4 = Start McCarron in a tank season. Trade back from 8 to gain more draft assets to combine with assets in Watson trade. Tank out the season and have the top pick in 2022 to pick Rattler, Howell, or Shough instead of settling at 8 this year. 

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1 minute ago, Agent Blue said:

It's all because Tua underperformed and now people have doubts. 

Had Tua lit it up this past year Mia wouldn't do the trade. 

I don't think Tua underperformed.  Think he looked like a rookie with a staff that didn't really know what they wanted to do.  You want to try to win as many games and let Tua have a learning season from the sideline or you want to go ahead and start grooming Tua.  They waffled in no man's land IMO. 

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7 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think Tua underperformed.  Think he looked like a rookie with a staff that didn't really know what they wanted to do.  You want to try to win as many games and let Tua have a learning season from the sideline or you want to go ahead and start grooming Tua.  They waffled in no man's land IMO. 

either way, they have doubts. with watson you have no doubts. 

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think Tua underperformed.  Think he looked like a rookie with a staff that didn't really know what they wanted to do.  You want to try to win as many games and let Tua have a learning season from the sideline or you want to go ahead and start grooming Tua.  They waffled in no man's land IMO. 

You could make a pretty good case that a top five pick getting benched more than once qualifies as "underperforming".

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21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

You could make a pretty good case that a top five pick getting benched more than once qualifies as "underperforming".

Though it was reported he was benched twice, it was actually once.

He was pulled from their game against the Broncos due to a thumb injury suffered from contact to a helmet. He missed their next game against the lowly Jets with his thumb wrapped. You would want your rookie playing the Jets to build confidence if healthy. Fitz did not bail them out, and in fact threw a game sealing interception late in the endzone against Denver.

The other game he was pulled was the Raider game. This game was 16-13 game when he was pulled. There were other circumstances that figured into this situation. This is the only game Fitz "bailed" them out, and it was mostly luck.

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