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Don"t Expect Carolina to Trade Up for a QB.


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1 minute ago, Trainwreck said:

That the problem we are at right now. We’re not getting Watson anymore. We’ll probably be left with the best 5th or 6th qb at #8. Tepper and Rhule are going to panic and overdraft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. That will set us back with another wasted pick like Will Grier. We just need to stick with Teddy now and make a run at Howell or Rattler next year. Too many area of needs to be taking a chance at Trask, Newman or Mond. 

No QB in round 2--I see your point.  I think we will sign a veteran, but one guy flying WAY below the radar could be a day-3 pick and he has perhaps a better chance of starting than Newman or Mond--people are going to laugh at this, but here goes--day 3 draft pick and potential starter in the NFL (in 2023 or so): 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/davis-mills/32004d49-4c67-8397-4c7b-81c6636ba80e

People will squint at this and laugh, but if he gets healthy, he has the size (not mobile) arm and brain to play in the NFL.

 

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3 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

That the problem we are at right now. We’re not getting Watson anymore. We’ll probably be left with the best 5th or 6th qb at #8. Tepper and Rhule are going to panic and overdraft a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. That will set us back with another wasted pick like Will Grier. We just need to stick with Teddy now and make a run at Howell or Rattler next year. Too many area of needs to be taking a chance at Trask, Newman or Mond. 

How do you go back to Teddy?? The whole offseason was a Teddy ain't it show...

If I'm Teddy why would I even try??

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3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

No QB in round 2--I see your point.  I think we will sign a veteran, but one guy flying WAY below the radar could be a day-3 pick and he has perhaps a better chance of starting than Newman or Mond--people are going to laugh at this, but here goes--day 3 draft pick and potential starter in the NFL (in 2023 or so): 

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/davis-mills/32004d49-4c67-8397-4c7b-81c6636ba80e

People will squint at this and laugh, but if he gets healthy, he has the size (not mobile) arm and brain to play in the NFL.

 

Watched MILLS pro day!  Impressive....i would agree!!

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1 hour ago, TLGPanthersFan said:
Panthers said they were gonna be aggressive, but an aggressive team would have done what the 49ers did. 

We were most likely bidding against the 49ers and lost. The price just got too high for the 3rd best QB.

I really don’t blame them.

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2 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

Tell me how we’re not going back to Teddy. We’re stuck with him. The only way you don’t go back to Teddy is by taking Mond, Trask or Newman. Those guys are not better than Teddy. 

That's the point both parties know we're stuck with each other.. Do you go perform and put your body on the line for a team that doesn't want you really.. What's stopping him from pulling a Watson on us??

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33 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

And who’s that guy? It sure won’t be Mond or Newman. 

People would've said the exact same thing about guys like Wilson and Brady going into their drafts... If anyone knew who that guy would be he'd be taken high, so nobody knows and it could be anyone.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

He has 17,000,000 reasons not to give a fug about all the shade we threw his way. 

Watson had 40 mil reason... Your still putting your body on the line for a franchise you know don't want you and would trade you in a heartbeat if they could.. How does that attitude not transition to other players you're trying to build a "culture" with??

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1 hour ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

We literally had Cam Newton and wasted him and maybe ruined his career for failing to build around him. What are you talking about we deserve a good QB. QB purgatory is exactly what we deserve.

I was referring to us Panthers fans... And that was the old owner and leadership, Tepper hasn't done anything to deserve purgatory.

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2 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

I agree with you but Teddy isn’t Watson. No other team is stupid enough to trade a pick for him. We wouldn’t be able to get a 5th round for Teddy. We have a college coach who thought that he could win with an average QB in the NFL. That’s how we ended up with Teddy. 

Cool I can see it from a team vision..

But as the player you've have pretty much spent all offseason telling me I'm trash.. How do I trust the blocking the play calling or surrounding talent when nobody believes in me or care if I'm here. 

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7 minutes ago, t96 said:

People would've said the exact same thing about guys like Wilson and Brady going into their drafts... If anyone knew who that guy would be he'd be taken high, so nobody knows and it could be anyone.

This is the hoping on Outlier thing that runs thru this fan base...

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7 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Watson had 40 mil reason... Your still putting your body on the line for a franchise you know don't want you and would trade you in a heartbeat if they could.. How does that attitude not transition to other players you're trying to build a "culture" with??

Watson was good enough to have plenty of other options prior to the unthinkable. No one else is giving Teddy $17M+.

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1 hour ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I agree, BUT this was the best offseason to get your potential man. 
Carolina may be bad again next year, who knows, and be in play for one of the 2 QBs that could be a starter. 
Many fans saw this year as one of the best years to get a QB, but now the Panthers are on the outside looking in and no plan for the future, from a fans perspective at least. 
Panthers may drag Teddy to the playoffs next year. But there is going to be this undercurrent of “What if”.  Because let’s face it. Unless our defense really becomes 2019 49ers or 2001 Ravens. The team will make the playoffs, face a better team that will stop the short passes of TB and we will enter a loop similar to the Chiefs before they got Mahomes. 
Alex Smith always had great season numbers and then struggled in the playoffs, he only made it to the NFC Championship once. 
We could of potentially gotten our franchise QB but now we are going to have to endure Bridgewater another season and potentially more. 
Panthers said they were gonna be aggressive, but an aggressive team would have done what the 49ers did. 

I’m sure another will emerge. This time last year nobody knew who Zach Wilson was. Well end up with 4 first round QBs next year as well... prob not as top heavy but they’ll be there. 

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Watson was good enough to have plenty of other options prior to the unthinkable. No one else is giving Teddy $17M+.

That's great but that 17mil  doesn't exclude you from not giving effort not trying and getting other players hurt..

Not being motivated to play a violent game like football is a death note. 

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