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Don"t Expect Carolina to Trade Up for a QB.


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2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Of course, every fan is going to want the best QB possible for their team.  The question as always is, at what price?  Right now the price is simply too high.

If Carolina was only a handful of players away from competing for a championship, I'd be all in on a QB right now.

As it stands, the Panthers aren't even close to competing for a championship.  They still have a significant number of key positions in need of an upgrade and that's before taking into account an overall lack of depth.

The Panthers have a realistic opportunity to build an adequate O-line and a strong D for our next franchise QB in the upcoming draft. 

To me, that is preferable to putting the Panthers next crown jewel behind a porous O-line and forcing them to continuously compensate for a D that can't protect a lead.  We asked our last franchise QB to carry the team that way w/his heroics and it didn't end well.

KC and Seattle are two recent examples of teams that were only a QB away from competing and an approach worthy of emulating here in Carolina. 

I get balking at the price but finding "the" QB is difficult. Not every attempt works out when you need a guy, first round or not.

I would be all for trading up to get a guy in this draft or trading for another very good QB. Sadly, both those ships have probably sailed. 

Now we should probably just stand pat hope someone falls to us at 8. If not, draft a mid-round QB or sign a veteran QB to shore us up for a season or two. I am not against trading for someone like Minshew, if the price makes sense. 

I don't see any way we can move forward with Teddy this season the way things went. I don't envision it being a positive environment for anyone on the team.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't see any way we can move forward with Teddy this season the way things went. I don't envision it being a positive environment for anyone on the team.

Agreed, another season of Teddy "No Clutch" doesn't offer much in the way of hope for players or fans.

Unfortunately, TB's contract is something of a millstone around the Panthers neck, limiting near term options.

Who knows?  We may still luck out and get our future QB w/the #8 pick.  If not, there are still plenty of other critical needs that can be addressed w/this draft.

Hard to believe, but only a year ago, we were told by ownership and a new coaching staff that they were building for the long haul and not looking for a quick fix. 

Had they actually kept their word, we wouldn't be asking how to get rid of Teddy right now. 

As it is, when it comes to addressing the QB position, we may have to simply grin and bear it for another year or risk digging ourselves into a deeper hole than we're already in. 

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2 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Agreed, another season of Teddy "No Clutch" doesn't offer much in the way of hope for players or fans.

Unfortunately, TB's contract is something of a millstone around the Panthers neck, limiting near term options.

Who knows?  We may still luck out and get our future QB w/the #8 pick.  If not, there are still plenty of other critical needs that can be addressed w/this draft.

Hard to believe, but only a year ago, we were told by ownership and a new coaching staff that they were building for the long haul and not looking for a quick fix. 

Had they actually kept their word, we wouldn't be asking how to get rid of Teddy right now. 

As it is, when it comes to addressing the QB position, we may have to simply grin and bear it for another year or risk digging ourselves into a deeper hole than we're already in. 

Teddy was genuinely a mistake to sign at the contract that we signed him to. I think a lot of us felt that way at the time and in hindsight it even looked worse. 

I am as perplexed as you about what spurred this sudden push to compete. What changed in a year's time from when Tepper was preaching the long term rebuild? Did we perform better than expected? Yeah, but I didn't see us as being close to contending. I saw a year showing we had some nice pieces to build on. Our roster was still just as bad as it was projected to be. 

We will see how this turns out. It's been a very odd offseason with the signings we have made so far. I hope we are able to do better in the draft. At least then we can start to maybe see the light at the end of the tunnel with a couple of more successful drafts.

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6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Teddy was genuinely a mistake to sign at the contract that we signed him to. I think a lot of us felt that way at the time and in hindsight it even looked worse. 

I am as perplexed as you about what spurred this sudden push to compete. What changed in a year's time from when Tepper was preaching the long term rebuild? Did we perform better than expected? Yeah, but I didn't see us as being close to contending. I saw a year showing we had some nice pieces to build on. Our roster was still just as bad as it was projected to be. 

We will see how this turns out. It's been a very odd offseason with the signings we have made so far. I hope we are able to do better in the draft. At least then we can start to maybe see the light at the end of the tunnel with a couple of more successful drafts.

Tepper is a business man and regardless of how much money he has, he is building a giant facility in Rock Hill and probably pushing for a stadium. He knows ticket restrictions are about to fade away over the next year or two and wants the seats full. Also explains why he is willing to sell his soul for a QB like Watson. It puts people in the seats and sells merchandise.

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11 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Tepper is a business man and regardless of how much money he has, he is building a giant facility in Rock Hill and probably pushing for a stadium. He knows ticket restrictions are about to fade away over the next year or two and wants the seats full. Also explains why he is willing to sell his soul for a QB like Watson. It puts people in the seats and sells merchandise.

Possibly that it is it. We will see.

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7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Teddy was genuinely a mistake to sign at the contract that we signed him to. I think a lot of us felt that way at the time and in hindsight it even looked worse. 

I am as perplexed as you about what spurred this sudden push to compete. What changed in a year's time from when Tepper was preaching the long term rebuild? Did we perform better than expected? Yeah, but I didn't see us as being close to contending. I saw a year showing we had some nice pieces to build on. Our roster was still just as bad as it was projected to be. 

We will see how this turns out. It's been a very odd offseason with the signings we have made so far. I hope we are able to do better in the draft. At least then we can start to maybe see the light at the end of the tunnel with a couple of more successful drafts.

Who thought that Tampa would win a Super Bowl champ anytime soon if they could just get a QB? They did. Quarterback runs the NFL. If you have a QB, you’re going to win. 

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9 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

Who thought that Tampa would win a Super Bowl champ anytime soon if they could just get a QB? They did. Quarterback runs the NFL. If you have a QB, you’re going to win. 

A lot of people recognized that Tampa had a supremely talented team that was being destroyed by all the short fields that Jameis Winston's turnovers created. It wasn't like Brady elevated a bunch of scrubs to become relevant. They just needed somebody that didn't fug everything up. 

 

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2 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

A lot of people recognized that Tampa had a supremely talented team that was being destroyed by all the short fields that Jameis Winston's turnovers created. It wasn't like Brady elevated a bunch of scrubs to become relevant. They just needed somebody that didn't fug everything up. 

 

lol yeah they really went out and got an efficient game manager

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2 minutes ago, Growl said:

lol yeah they really went out and got an efficient game manager

I'm not saying that Brady is a game manager, but I am saying that the team was good enough to win with slightly above average QB play. If Brady elected to stay in NE, I think they could have won a title with Philip Rivers. 

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I can't wait for April 29th.

The team is either going to have a young QB that could be the future, or we're going to get to swim in the tears of all of these folks saying they're done with the Panthers if they don't change QBs this season.

Either way, it'll be fun. 🥳

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57 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

I'm not saying that Brady is a game manager, but I am saying that the team was good enough to win with slightly above average QB play. If Brady elected to stay in NE, I think they could have won a title with Philip Rivers. 

another career journeyman to be sure

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