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1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I am not defending Rivera, but most coaches these days succeed or fail in large part due to the play at Qb.    

 

Absolutely.  However, he had one and drove him into the ground--going for the immediate reward at the expense of long term success.

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10 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

We’ve been signing some JAGs too so quit hating on Hurney and WFT

Our JAGs have experience.  Hurney is trying to re-invent A. Gates.  A former Basketball player, the difference is Gates played football.  This guy has never played one snap and Hurney wants to make him a professional football player.  

Wait till some linebacker cleans his clock (legal hit) in practice. 

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1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Our JAGs have experience.  Hurney is trying to re-invent A. Gates.  A former Basketball player, the difference is Gates played football.  This guy has never played one snap and Hurney wants to make him a professional football player.  

Wait till some linebacker cleans his clock (legal hit) in practice. 

We just signed a running back who we found at a HUB football camp. Panthers fans need to get over Ron and Hurney. We got a new coaching staff and owner now. They haven’t proven anything yet. Ron, Jerry and Hurney all have taken this franchise to the Super Bowl. Stop the complaining. 

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10 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

We just signed a running back who we found at a HUB football camp. Panthers fans need to get over Ron and Hurney. We got a new coaching staff and owner now. They haven’t proven anything yet. Ron, Jerry and Hurney all have taken this franchise to the Super Bowl. Stop the complaining. 

The post is about Washington and Hurney.  I think my comments are highly relevant to the opening post.  Seems you are so hell bent on giving Hurney credit for one super bowl appearing 17 years ago. 

Hurney has a huge track record of reaching for some obscure player no one has ever heard of and trying to make him a star.   He sucks at it.

The difference in the HUB football player is that he actually played football while the  TE has never suited up.

Get a grip and stick with the opening post instead of protecting your favorite GM.

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18 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

The post is about Washington and Hurney.  I think my comments are highly relevant to the opening post.  Seems you are so hell bent on giving Hurney credit for one super bowl appearing 17 years ago. 

Hurney has a huge track record of reaching for some obscure player no one has ever heard of and trying to make him a star.   He sucks at it.

The difference in the HUB football player is that he actually played football while the  TE has never suited up.

Get a grip and stick with the opening post instead of protecting your favorite GM.

Did your wife cheat on you with Hurney? Why do you dislike the guy so much. You’re making negative posts about Hurney signing a guy that never played football before when he’s not even the General Manager in Washington. Mayhew is. 

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24 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

Did your wife cheat on you with Hurney? Why do you dislike the guy so much. You’re making negative posts about Hurney signing a guy that never played football before when he’s not even the General Manager in Washington. Mayhew is. 

I dislike the guy because the 2 times he has been with us he's made terrible moves and thinks he's a mastermind at finding obscure talent.  Both times with us he has managed to make insane contracts and over value players to the point where we are strapped with lousy contracts for years.

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1 hour ago, Trainwreck said:

Did your wife cheat on you with Hurney? Why do you dislike the guy so much. You’re making negative posts about Hurney signing a guy that never played football before when he’s not even the General Manager in Washington. Mayhew is. 

why are you defending him so much? did he tickle your prostate?

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12 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Absolutely.  However, he had one and drove him into the ground--going for the immediate reward at the expense of long term success.

And how is the genius coaches in NE using him differently?

Cam is who he is. A physical presence playing QB. That’s the only way he knows how to play. 

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3 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

And how is the genius coaches in NE using him differently?

Cam is who he is. A physical presence playing QB. That’s the only way he knows how to play. 

While I do agree with the analysis of Cam, I also think that it's important that Ron take some heat for that.  If we had brought in an actual QB coach & OC, perhaps someone would have taught Cam how to play a different way.  Honestly, I believe he was capable.  2018 was already too late physically, but he appeared to really turn a corner that season mentally.  Perhaps if he had turned that corner in 2014 instead we might be talking about a completely different narrative.

It's water under the bridge, but I believe Rivera deserves a fair helping of responsibility for that.

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13 minutes ago, BrianS said:

While I do agree with the analysis of Cam, I also think that it's important that Ron take some heat for that.  If we had brought in an actual QB coach & OC, perhaps someone would have taught Cam how to play a different way.  Honestly, I believe he was capable.  2018 was already too late physically, but he appeared to really turn a corner that season mentally.  Perhaps if he had turned that corner in 2014 instead we might be talking about a completely different narrative.

It's water under the bridge, but I believe Rivera deserves a fair helping of responsibility for that.

Yea I won’t argue his offensive coaching staff should have been better. He hired too many friends. But it’s so tiring to see people on here keep saying the same thing over for years now. It’s in the past we are in a new era. 

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48 minutes ago, BrianS said:

While I do agree with the analysis of Cam, I also think that it's important that Ron take some heat for that.  If we had brought in an actual QB coach & OC, perhaps someone would have taught Cam how to play a different way.  Honestly, I believe he was capable.  2018 was already too late physically, but he appeared to really turn a corner that season mentally.  Perhaps if he had turned that corner in 2014 instead we might be talking about a completely different narrative.

It's water under the bridge, but I believe Rivera deserves a fair helping of responsibility for that.

The guy who helped Josh Allen turn into what he is now is Ken Dorsey, Newton's former quarterback coach.

While he was here, Rivera had Dorsey be less of a coach and more of a friend because he was too scared Cam might not respond well to anything negative.

So in truth, Ron actually did bring in a "real quarterback coach". He just didn't let him do his job.

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