Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Darnold's QBR was higher than Tannehill's


Recommended Posts

43 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

 

So that constitutes "the mental aspect of the game"...

...good stuff, been wondering about that.

Was he doing any of that stuff when he was with the Jets or is all of this brand new to him?  

 

 

Having a vet to learn from, and a competent QB Coach also help. Someone to help digest what just happened on the field can also be of help. And having a strong QB room is another one.

 

Not sure how much of that Sam got. You can study film, but if no one teaches you how, it isn't much help. 

 

Other than a vet to help him, Sam is going to get a lot more help here than he ever has.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

I just looked this up and Tannehill had a higher QBR than Darnold every year besides 2018. In that traditional rating Tannehill was slightly worse in his 1st 2 seasons, but he beat Darnold his 3rd season and never had a rating lower than Darnold's best after that.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3912547/sam-darnold

 

I think you can walk away feeling a bit better than Darnold isn't a lost cause when comparing the numbers, but it certainly doesn't say Darnold was the better QB in his first 3 seasons by comparison. The biggest concern is the disparity in completion percentage. 

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

I just looked this up and Tannehill had a higher QBR than Darnold every year besides 2018. In that traditional rating Tannehill was slightly worse in his 1st 2 seasons, but he beat Darnold his 3rd season and never had a rating lower than Darnold's best after that.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14876/ryan-tannehill

https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/3912547/sam-darnold

 

I think you can walk away feeling a bit better than Darnold isn't a lost cause when comparing the numbers, but it certainly doesn't say Darnold was the better QB in his first 3 seasons by comparison. The biggest concern is the disparity in completion percentage. 

Which years was Tannehill better?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Yeah, but the Jets atrocious OL have to be taken into account too. They were worse than the Bell/Chandler Panthers OL of 2014 where Cam scored 18 TDs to 12 picks in a 7-8-1 season.

Sam isn't exactly getting it easy here either though. Our line is serviceable but we are a few injuries away from catastrophe until proven otherwise. Not to mention we are basically entering the season hoping one of a few tackles emerges as the anchor on the left side. But that is what we have done the last ten years and it hasn't worked yet so fingers crossed I guess.

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Which years was Tannehill better?

In each of their first 3 seasons:

QBR

Tannehill takes all 3

QB Rating (traditional)

Darnold

Darnold

Tannehill

 

The only time Tannehill would post a QBR lower than Darnold was in 2018, and even then it's odd because his Rating is a lot higher, and the stats are much better for Tannehill. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Sam isn't exactly getting it easy here either though. Our line is serviceable but we are a few injuries away from catastrophe until proven otherwise. Not to mention we are basically entering the season hoping one of a few tackles emerges as the anchor on the left side. But that is what we have done the last ten years and it hasn't worked yet so fingers crossed I guess.

 

This ain't your daddys' Panthers. There is a possibility they have a plan. Rhule is a sharp cookie, let's see what he's got before we torch the place. At least that is how this cockeyed optimist views it.

 

I could be wrong, but I am not going to throw a hissy until things get sorted out. In Rhule we trust. All others. Keep your pants on until at least TC. Mkay?

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 hours ago, hepcat said:

Will Darnold look better than he did last season? 100% absolutely I guarantee it. Better coaching, better scheme, better playmakers, better culture, better everything.

Will Darnold perform better than Teddy Bridgewater? That's a tough thing to predict. Bridgewater played well at times but mainly failed in the red zone and at the end of games. If Darnold can perform around the same as Bridgewater but deliver more success in critical situations, the Panthers could be a playoff team.

He could also be a colossal failure if his psyche is broken and the Jets truly ruined him. 

I just don't see us as a playoff team no matter how it pans out. Better than last year is a must even though its early in the process.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

In each of their first 3 seasons:

QBR

Tannehill takes all 3

QB Rating (traditional)

Darnold

Darnold

Tannehill

 

The only time Tannehill would post a QBR lower than Darnold was in 2018, and even then it's odd because his Rating is a lot higher, and the stats are much better for Tannehill. 

Ok.  Since you won't post years, I'm assuming you are using years that Tannehill wasn't under Gase.

The premise of the post was to compare GASE years of the two QBs.

Edited by SBBlue
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, SBBlue said:

Ok.  Since you won't post years, I'm assuming you are using years that Tannehill wasn't under Gase.

The premise of the post was to compare GASE years of the to QBs.

 

You mean you can't just compare QBs willy nilly? That there are rules? Noooo, that doesn't sound right. lol

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

You know, there’s been a ton of hype around our defense this offseason and for good reason. This defense, at least on paper, looks scary. It’s very fast and if our secondary holds up then I anticipate a lot of pressure on opposing QBs this year.
 

What isn’t getting talked about is how good this offense could be if Darnold can just be a middle of the league QB. We have so many weapons it’s insane. And if this OLine and QB can be just average then this offense is going to be scary good as well imo.

Everything will still be going through CMC. But we have Moore, Anderson, Marshall, Moore, Tremble, Arnold... there is some serious talent on the offensive side of the ball man.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Ok.  Since you won't post years, I'm assuming you are using years that Tannehill wasn't under Gase.

The premise of the post was to compare GASE years of the two QBs.

You realize he said "first three seasons" in his post, right?

Read it again.

Edited by kungfoodude
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

You know, there’s been a ton of hype around our defense this offseason and for good reason. This defense, at least on paper, looks scary. It’s very fast and if our secondary holds up then I anticipate a lot of pressure on opposing QBs this year.
 

What isn’t getting talked about is how good this offense could be if Darnold can just be a middle of the league QB. We have so many weapons it’s insane. And if this OLine and QB can be just average then this offense is going to be scary good as well imo.

Everything will still be going through CMC. But we have Moore, Anderson, Marshall, Moore, Tremble, Arnold... there is some serious talent on the offensive side of the ball man.

 

I like the cut of your gib. Is that right? This is the time of year for unbridled optimism. Screw that wait and see, or the doom and gloom. Give me the excitement an upcoming season brings.

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You realize he said "first three seasons" in his post, right?

Read it again.

Ok.  First three seasons of what...in the league, with Gase.....  That is why I asked for the years.  

 

Edited by SBBlue
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 minutes ago, SBBlue said:

Ok.  First three seasons of what...in the league, with Gase.....  That is why I asked for the years.  

 

I didn't really think he needed to explain that but I guess I was wrong. 

He is talking about first three years in the NFL. That info takes 5 seconds to reference on PFR.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • sam.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • And you've had this one where you obviously have reading comprehension issues. In other words, do your research next time or shut the f-ck up.   Fair?   Good.
    • I feel you bro. I spent most of my adolescent life in Camp Lejeune NC.  The son of a US Marine.  My father being from Baltimore and baseball and football were the major sports i grew up with.  NBA and ABA was not as popular as it is now.  Baltimore back then had Unitas and the Robinson's in baseball.  So life was good. 1984 all that changed as far as football went.  I never followed the Colts to Indy so I was basically a fan without a team.  I followed the Giants mostly because LT went to school with my brother (he was a walk on Safety for UNC and had a couple of cool stories about LT in practice) and my 1st wife was from Long Island, NY. I loved NC and always called it home so when Carolina got the Panthers and later the Hornets these became my favorite teams and win/lose or draw I have always been a fan.  I know in the early days of the Panthers the Redskins, Steelers, Cowboys and even the Falcons had major roots in our fan base.  Over the years many have jumped ship to the Panthers and our Carolina fan base is a little more loyal and we have less loyalty to those listed above. I was watching NFL Live yesterday and they were talking about the Panthers Defense. Marcus Spears pointed out what I think makes our defense so dynamic.  He said how crazy athletic we were.  IMO that is the key to our defense.  So many fast, athletic and smart players on the field.   Another take was when they were talking about Rhule during his press conference.  They mentioned how deeply he knew about every aspect of a play or decision.  He is completely in-charge and knows every in and out of this team.  
×
×
  • Create New...