Panthers sign K Zane Gonzalez

[Floppin]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah... That's a really stupid take.

The coaching staff is not setting up their own players for failure.

I don't think he was insinuating that they were doing so intentionally.....

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Floppin said:

I don't think he was insinuating that they were doing so intentionally.....

Sounds deliberate the way it's worded.

[CRA]

9 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

I never thought those were counting against a kicker anyway so its a bit surprising if it was...like who tf actually puts that on the kicker...would actually be a knock against them if so. Should, at that distance, be a great if you do no worries if you don't make it.

They still count as misses.   

and like I said if you consistently keep asking him to make circus kicks to win games or tie them late (which we did both) …..I would think there begins to be an expectation that he will then make some of them that starts to sink in.  Kicking is a head game.   

I don’t mind the rare circus kick for fun.  I think we started doing it too much.   

[Floppin]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sounds deliberate the way it's worded.

I could see why you say that but I seriously doubt that's what he meant. 

[Fox007]

Just now, CRA said:

They still count as misses.   

and like I said if you consistently keep asking him to make circus kicks to win games or tie them late (which we did both) …..I would think there begins to be an expectation that he will then make some of them that starts to sink in.  Kicking is a head game.   

I don’t mind the rare circus kick for fun.  I think we started doing it too much.   

Right I know they count against your actual FG % what I mean was in terms of the coaching staff holding it against him. 

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah... That's a really stupid take.

The coaching staff is not setting up their own players for failure.

Coaches set guys up to fail all the time.   I didn’t say it was intentional and they planned it out that way.   Was Darnold set up to fail by NY? Was it deliberate? 

We continuously asked Joey Slye to go make 65+ kicks to win and tie games.   I doubt that trotting him out there to miss helped him….especially now in hindsight.

You see more Hail Marys actually work than you do 65+ yarders go down.  See plenty  Hail Marys work every season.   But we deemed Syle the best option.  Eventually those don’t just become for shits and giggles when your team keeps going to you…to win/tie it late. 

 

[glenwo2]

15 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Do we have a kicking coach? Or just a Magic 8 Ball?

What if our kicking coach *is* a Magic 8 Ball? 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, glenwo2 said:

What if our kicking coach *is* a Magic 8 Ball? 

"TRY AGAIN"

[ThPantherFan]

3 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Did they catch Verity torturing small animals during the joint practices or something?  I just don't get it.  We released a guy with a better FG percentage despite his struggles, field a guy in week 1 who hit the upright in the preseason and then missed an XP in week 1 while playing against another kicker we cut in the preseason who turned into an all-world punter, only to release the guy we started to sign a guy we cut in the offseason who has been a trainwreck as a pro and has been on as many teams as Kim K has been on penises.

UHHHH, yes.

[CRA]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Sounds deliberate the way it's worded.

You have the ability to choose how you want interpret anything you read on the internet.    And some are way too over protective of Matt Rhule. 

I simply think in hindsight, with a kicker that got in his own head…..we probably shouldn’t of kept asking Joey to do the impossible so routinely.   Throw the Hail Mary.  It has better odds.  We treated Joey as the best odds. 

In the end you got a kicker taking the L….because you gotta think every time Syle believed he should of made it.  

[Mr. Scot]

20 minutes ago, cookinbrak said:

Do we have a kicking coach? Or just a Magic 8 Ball?

We dont. Few teams do.

That surprises me honestly because it seems like it's a good idea.

Edited September 14, 2021 by Mr. Scot

[Fox007]

2 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

What if our kicking coach *is* a Magic 8 Ball? 

lol

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

We dont. Few teams do.

That surprises me honestly because it seems like it's b a good idea.

Never even thought about that, always figured it was under special teams.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

You have the ability to choose how you want interpret anything you read on the internet.    And some are way too over protective of Matt Rhule. 

I simply think in hindsight, with a kicker that got in his own head…..we probably shouldn’t of kept asking Joey to do the impossible so routinely.   Throw the Hail Mary.  It has better odds.  We treated Joey as the best odds. 

In the end you got a kicker taking the L….because you gotta think every time Syle believed he should of made it.  

They were trying to win games. It's not a psychology seminar.

The guy can either do it or he can't. In this case, turns out he can't.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Fox007 said:

Never even thought about that, always figured it was under special teams.

It generally is, but some teams bring in a specialist.