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Official Patriots at Panthers GameDay Thread


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2 minutes ago, ImaginaryKev said:

I wasn't even talking about rookies, I mentioned the best QBs in the NFL. And surprise, a lot of them weren't great as rookies and had big question marks about their games. 

I agree on the needing a QB. But there is no way one was going to fix it this year. And one won't next year either.

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4 minutes ago, Anybodyhome said:

Poll question:

You want a rookie QB behind this O-line or Sam Darnold behind a decent O-line?

This should be obvious.  Please actually put this in a poll in a separate thread. I would LOVE to see exactly how delusional this fan base really is.

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1 minute ago, chbright said:

 

Not a strawman on this season with a rookie or a rookie next year. As you said they didn't just make it work year one.

 

All you have is a calling everything a straw man. Must be trolling.

So basically you want to win immediately and won't be able to deal with growing pains that are natural when dealing with young players. Maybe football ain't for you bc this team ain't gonna be good overnight 

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Just now, ImaginaryKev said:

So basically you want to win immediately and won't be able to deal with growing pains that are natural when dealing with young players. Maybe football ain't for you bc this team ain't gonna be good overnight 

No that's you with this problem if it's win now.

Yeah we are fuged for 2 years plus now.

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Just now, chbright said:

No that's you with this problem if it's win now.

Yeah we are fuged for 2 years plus now.

Again, you are projecting. 

If the Panthers ever wanna win they need a QB, one might be available next year and they don't even need the 1st pick, and they can also improve the line esp since as Brady Christensen has proven, rookie offensive lineman can't just start right away. He'll start after a year in the weight room. Centers can be found later in the draft. Guards in free agency. Don't put words in my mouth bc youre upset about the loss bc clearly you haven't thought about any of this 

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