Baker Mayfield

[hepcat]

Mayfield appears done in Cleveland. Regardless of if the Browns land Deshaun Watson I’d imagine. Would you consider Mayfield if Watson doesn’t come to the Panthers? Personally I would. His price tag would be far cheaper, he’s played some good football in his career (unlike the last QB they traded for). Plus no creepy sexual predator stigma to deal with. 

I think the Panthers should be getting a vibe for his price right now. 

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[PNW_PantherMan]

No thanks.  He's not that good.

Observe.

 

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[PantherKyle]

I’m probably out on it. Rhule desperation though scares me. I’d rather draft LT or Hamilton, have Rhule get fired, and take Young or Stroud with a fresh start. 

[hepcat]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

No thanks.  He's not that good.

He’s miles better than Bridgewater and light years better than Darnold. Problem is McAdoo thinks Darnold was a better prospect. https://www.dawgsbynature.com/platform/amp/2018/7/16/17578058/ben-mcadoo-surprised-john-dorsey-drafted-baker-mayfield

[MVPccaffrey]

If he could be had for like, a 3rd, that would be fine.  Doubt that's possible.

No comparison to Darnold at all.  He actually QB'd a team that won double digit games, and a postseason game.  Darnold couldn't do that on the 85 Bears.  

Baker is probably a top 20 to 25 QB in the league.  Darnold isn't even among the top 50.  No comparison at all.

He could be our Jimmy G until we drafted and groomed his replacement.  

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[hepcat]

6 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

No thanks.  He's not that good.

Observe.

 

Lol let’s pull up a video of all of Darnold’s interceptions now just to compare 

[PNW_PantherMan]

We just need to draft our own QB.  Browns wanna move on because he's not good enough.  He looked like Sam Darnold at times last year.

[CRA]

I think the Panthers should quit spending money on QBs who we know aren’t good enough 

but that’s not the Rhule way 

[Aussie Tank]

I would 

[pantherj]

Baker is not good enough for us to be one of the top teams in the NFL in the future. Having a lower tier competent QB is actually the worst case scenario for the Panthers imo. Baker would be good enough to keep us out of the top ten of the draft, but NEVER good enough for us to even sniff the SB imo. That is QB limbo. That is the worst thing a football team can do. Better that we start Darnold in 2022, and draft a top prospect in 2023.

No more QB limbo under any circumstances. Bottom out and pick a top QB, or land Watson. Don't do ANYTHING else.

[MVPccaffrey]

10 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Baker is not good enough for us to be one of the top teams in the NFL in the future. Having a lower tier competent QB is actually the worst case scenario for the Panthers imo. Baker would be good enough to keep us out of the top ten of the draft, but NEVER good enough for us to even sniff the SB imo. That is QB limbo. That is the worst thing a football team can do. Better that we start Darnold in 2022, and draft a top prospect in 2023.

No more QB limbo under any circumstances. Bottom out and pick a top QB, or land Watson. Don't do ANYTHING else.

Not a fair standard.  Perhaps if we had a Baker the team would have been competitive enough the last two years that Watson actually might have wanted to come here and we wouldn't be getting clowned so hard by media pundits for being a dumpster fire.

Meanwhile Saints have been trotting out Winston, a QB inferior to Baker, and instead of bottoming out they've retained enough respectability that Watson is going to choose them.

Bridge QBs are fine when they can at least function as game managers, and not complete disasters like Teddy and Sam

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[rayzor]

Better than but not good enough.

Better than who we've had the last couple years.

Not good enough to get this team anywhere.

Look elsewhere.

[pantherj]

Just now, MVPccaffrey said:

Not a fair standard.  Perhaps if we had a Baker the team would have been competitive enough the last two years that Watson actually might have wanted to come here and we wouldn't be getting clowned so hard by media pundits for being a dumpster fire.

Meanwhile Saints have been trotting out Winston, a QB inferior to Baker, and instead of bottoming out they've retained enough respectability that Watson is going to choose them

The Saints have been trotting out a first ballot HoF QB with a HoF Coach for 14 years and developed a reputation for great offense long term. That is what impressed Watson, and he still might come here instead. If we gain an incredible reputation for great offense and great coaching staff after over a decade of having a HoF QB and coach THEN I might change my approach, but not likely.

[pantherj]

The way we got out of QB limbo last time was Hurney drafted Pickles, we lost 15 games, and we drafted Cam Newton. We nearly won the SB, and would have gone back had he not busted his shoulder imo. That is how quickly you can turn it around. Those top couple of draft picks are pure gold in a season where top QB prospects are available.

Counting on a Brady or Watson to pop up in free agency and fall in love with how well we did with a lower tier QB is not something that I would ever make a plan for. You plan for the draft.