Offers for Burns

[blahblah312]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Also, Burn is in line for  a HUGE payday and by trading him we free up MUCH needed cap room for next year.  The more I think about this, the more it needs to happen.

Where did you find this chart at? I would love to have this to see how much a putting out a awful product actually costs. For kicks and giggles, anyone know how much the offensive (and I do mean offensive) side of the ball actually costs the team?

[stan786]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Also, Burn is in line for  a HUGE payday and by trading him we free up MUCH needed cap room for next year.  The more I think about this, the more it needs to happen.

Generally with extensions that number next year isnt going to change and we will be pretty set in 2024 with our books to be able to effectively manage our coming extensions.

[CmC2k]

I love Burns as a player and a leader but if the Eagles offered their 1st this year, the saints 1st this year and some change I'd really have to consider that offer if Burns isn't 100% committed on resigning here or if his contract demand is something crazy. I'd love to see what an NFL DC could do with him unlike Phill Snow who was dropping him into coverage on what seemed almost every 3rd down. 

[Raleigh PF]

1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I think Burns is a fine DE. But he isn’t a game changer and his production can be replaced. 
So the fact we were offered two first round picks and rejected then is baffling. 

The offer was likely from a playoff contender and likely spanned over a couple of years, meaning the picks were 25th or worse. 

[ForJimmy]

10 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

Burns is VERY good at getting QB pressures. But he's average at actually sacking QBs. He's also average at setting and edge. You take the two 1st founders and run IMO.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-sack-last-3-seasons
 

Looks like he is number 8 in sacks over the past 3 years. He also comes up 8th in tackles in that same group of pass rushers. So he is top 10 at sacks as tackles as an end/edge rusher and is 26 years old. People on here calling him a JAG lol… Oh and that’s with Snow dropping him into coverage on 3rd and long.

Edited October 23, 2022 by ForJimmy

[blahblah312]

On another note, I vote yes for Burns being traded if we can get 2 1st rounders out of it, that alone to me at least would make sense....burn it all down, get what we can and rebuild it. 

 

[45catfan]

Just now, stan786 said:

Generally with extensions that number next year isnt going to change and we will be pretty set in 2024 with our books to be able to effectively manage our coming extensions.

A new deal for Burns would be a cap burden for years to come.  This is just making more and more sense to me. We already seen the reports that a team (probably Philly) was willing to deal the two firsts. Two things we desperately need going into next year is cap room and to stockpile draft picks.  Dealing Burns provides both of those in not a little, but in a MAJOR way.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Burns is a good player, but it would be a mistake to make him the cornerstone of the defense.  He's due for a massive contract.  I'd take the picks and run.  2 firsts and change is an overpay.

[45catfan]

7 minutes ago, blahblah312 said:

Where did you find this chart at? I would love to have this to see how much a putting out a awful product actually costs. For kicks and giggles, anyone know how much the offensive (and I do mean offensive) side of the ball actually costs the team?

Either Spotrac or OTC, but our offensive offense is costing us $81.7 million currently

[4Corners]

Y’all crazy. Want to turn the panthers into the 80s-90s Expos. 

[ForJimmy]

10 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Burns isn't worth anything. I've pointed this out for years here.

The guy can't do anything. 

Saying it doesn’t mean poo honestly. CMC isn’t worth anything. See it’s dumb and pointless. Show some actual data why a 26 year who is the top 10 in sacks over the past 3 years isn’t worth anything. Why did a team offer 2 firsts for a player not worth anything? 

[1of10Charnatives]

51 minutes ago, Little Goody Two Shoes said:

He’s giving you (or whoever) one example, which is the Jets. He’s telling you to use Google and calling you old because you didn’t already. 

Thanks. I only speak english. They didn't offer crackhead in school when I was there.

[blahblah312]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Either Spotrac or OTC, but our offensive offense is costing us $81.7 million currently

[Catsfan69]

The pass rusher you keep averages a sack a game. Historically that's about where the greats are.

Smith, Jones, Peppers, Greene, that's elite.

Hell just in our franchise Burns is 8th

1.Peppers 

2.Greene

3.Lathan

4.Hardy

5.Reddick

6.Johnson 

8.Burns/Rucker