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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Kelly Bryant was a better football player.  DJ a better pure passer.  I’d take Kelly all day over DJ in the Clemson scheme. 

Cade is probably the best QB prospect not named Trevor that Clemson has landed IMO.  Watson probably the best QB overall when it all was said in done but he wasn’t that highly regarded coming in 

I have to disagree with you there. Trevor was a lot better than Watson. There were games where Watson just looked flat out awful. I was honestly surprised he was a 1st round pick and he has significantly out performed my expectations on the NFL.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have to disagree with you there. Trevor was a lot better than Watson. There were games where Watson just looked flat out awful. I was honestly surprised he was a 1st round pick and he has significantly out performed my expectations on the NFL.

Trevor was like a lab built QB. 

Watson IMO had some magic Trevor didn’t 

Trevor was more consistent over the course of a game.  Final drive, I’m taking Watson though 

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4 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I can't recall seeing Bama looking this beatable over the course of a season in years. Has Saban's dynasty finally started to end?

If Bama hangs on tonight with Clemson struggling and OSU looking underwhelming against an awful Northwestern team you're going to see the "SEC! SEC! SEC!" folks start lobbying for three teams in the playoffs. Not even joking. Hell, they really think the playoffs should be the four top SEC teams every year.

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