Rapoport and Pelissero talk head coach openings

[WOW!!]

The term offensive guru is getting thrown around so easily lately.. 1 year of success makes you a guru now??? Okay!!

[CMAC22]

On 1/3/2023 at 11:26 AM, Mr. Scot said:

Note: This analysis written and posted this past Sunday prior to the Bucs game.

A look at head coach situations of five teams as 2022 NFL season nears its end

From the article...

Carolina Panthers

Interim coach Steve Wilks has the team in position to win the NFC South if they can complete a sweep of the Bucs today -- a remarkable feat considering Carolina opened the season with a head coach who's now a Cornhusker, a quarterback who's now a Ram and a star running back who's now a 49er. After a 1-4 start under ex-head coach Matt Rhule, they're 5-5 under Wilks.

The turnaround has positioned Wilks, 53, as a strong candidate for the full-time job. He's well-regarded and liked within the building. However, Carolina still intends to go through a full search process that also includes other in-demand candidates. Owner David Tepper's top priorities have been solidifying the quarterback position and the offense, so expect the Panthers to interview all of the rising offensive gurus. If Wilks is going to get the job, he'll need to sell his plan for that side of the ball, too. Tepper also respects Wilks' leadership traits, which is a huge part of the job.

Key phrase here: "all of the rising offensive gurus".

We know that list includes Johnson and Steichen, but who else would fit that criteria?

Ken Dorsey and Kellen Moore for rising offensive gurus as well

[Stuart Smith]

9 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

And that's the only reason. Like I pointed out, an OC is only as good as his qb. If you don't have one you are looking for one. 

Something that people overlook about Tom Brady’s (poor for Brady’s Standards) year is the fact that he did not have the same personnel to work with. He missed Gronk perhaps more than anyone, his replacement was terrible. No matter the quarterback you have to have him quality weapons. If Sam Darnold had Mike Evans, J’Mar Chase, or Justin Jefferson he would have look much better. One example is how much better Kirk Cousins did with Justin Jefferson. Maybe it’s the Panthers receivers as much as the quarterback. 

[Method43]

23 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Ellis's take...

There's a case to be made

Agreed.   He's my top choice TBH

[The Huddler]

get us a god damn offensive guy that calls the plays like andy reid.  I want good offense and I want it to stay. 

[amcoolio]

Frank Reich has failed everywhere he's been except for that weird Eagles year where clearly something in the universe went wrong to allow that Eagles year to happen because it was so random. Why is there a "case to be made" for Reich. He was fired specifically for horrible offenses in San Diego, Arizona, and Indianapolis, despite having all time talent.

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, amcoolio said:

Frank Reich has failed everywhere he's been except for that weird Eagles year where clearly something in the universe went wrong to allow that Eagles year to happen because it was so random. Why is there a "case to be made" for Reich. He was fired specifically for horrible offenses in San Diego, Arizona, and Indianapolis, despite having all time talent.

Weren't you on here vehemently defending Matt Rhule?

[Mr. Scot]

Kaye was asked about Harbaugh in his mailbag...

@DONALDC58 ON TWITTER ASKS: WOULD THE TEAM REALLY REACH INTO THE COLLEGE RANKS AGAIN AFTER THE FAILED EXPERIENCE WITH MATT RHULE? AND WOULD JIM HARBAUGH REALLY WANT THE CAROLINA POSITION WITH THE TENUOUS QB SITUATION?

The Charlotte Observer confirmed on Tuesday that Panthers owner David Tepper recently spoke with University of Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh. That conversation was not a formal interview.

Having said that, Harbaugh isn’t just a “college coach.” In fact, he’s more of a unicorn candidate than anyone else currently making the rumor mill churn.

Harbaugh is a former NFL quarterback, who has had notable coaching success in the NFL and the college ranks. He’s also a proven QB developer — Colin Kaepernick with the 49ers and Andrew Luck with Stanford — who has a sharp offensive mind. Essentially, he checks most boxes for what owners are looking for in the modern NFL.

On paper, comparing Harbaugh to Matt Rhule is like comparing an entire fruit salad to an orange. Harbaugh’s college success has trumped Rhule’s resume by a mile. And on top of that, Harbaugh is a former NFL player and a head coach who led his team to a Super Bowl matchup.

In regards to the follow-up question, Harbaugh has stated that not winning a Super Bowl is unfinished business in the NFL. The Athletic reported earlier this week that multiple sources close to Harbaugh believe he will head to the NFL if offered a job.

Harbaugh interviewed for the Minnesota Vikings’ opening last year, but he was passed over for Kevin O’Connell. While Kirk Cousins is a polarizing quarterback, he wasn’t seen as being on solid ground ahead of O’Connell’s hiring. He signed a contract extension after O’Connell — whom he worked with in Washington — was hired.

In the interest of the Panthers, another question should be asked: Does Carolina want another overarching program-builder after the way Rhule led the team to failure?

Overarching NFL dictators are few and far between in the annals of league success. Just like in the movie business, it’s hard to find a talent who can write, direct and star in a successful venture in the NFL.

Harbaugh was let go in San Francisco, at least partially, because of a reported power struggle gone awry. Who is to say he won’t repeat that approach in Charlotte?

For as much as Harbaugh might want to be the Bradley Cooper-type and create his own “A Star is Born” success story, Tepper might view that approach as antithetical to the process. For every Bill Belichick or Pete Carroll, there is a Rhule or Chip Kelly.

Tepper knows that firsthand, and because of that knowledge, he might be hesitant to go all in on a coach with a history of wanting to own an entire program. Or, he might welcome the opportunity to get that style of operation right this time around.

For what it’s worth, Queen City News anchor Will Kunkel, who first reported the conversation between Harbaugh and the Panthers, reported Tuesday that Harbaugh told the outlet that he believes he will be coaching at Michigan next season.

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