Wilks' Post-Game Locker Room talk vs. Saints

[Icege]

I'm sure we will have folks in here arguing over whether or not Wilks deserves the job, but these have been a fun addition to the season. I really appreciate the Panthers' media team for capturing these.

 

[TheCasillas]

Hats off to wilks going 6-6 as interim head coach. I do wonder if he started sooner if we have a winning record. Funny how Eddie sealed the season with a game winning kick, and could have sealed a playoff birth if he did it in Atlanta too

[Bear Hands]

Barno also showing up was nice.  His athleticism is off the charts, if he puts it together, could be a damage maker.  

[TheCasillas]

Side note: TMJ starting to turn into a Man. Damn he has gotten big since we drafted him. 
 

breakout candidate. 

[Manna]

4 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Hats off to wilks going 6-6 as interim head coach. I do wonder if he started sooner if we have a winning record. Funny how Eddie sealed the season with a game winning kick, and could have sealed a playoff birth if he did it in Atlanta too

Eddy grew from his failures after the first ATL game and hadn’t missed a kick since, including a high pressure kick yesterday to win the game. Can’t say the same about the other dudes on the team who continually fail at what they do. 

[TheCasillas]

25 minutes ago, Manna said:

Eddy grew from his failures after the first ATL game and hadn’t missed a kick since, including a high pressure kick yesterday to win the game. Can’t say the same about the other dudes on the team who continually fail at what they do. 

[Icege]

30 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Side note: TMJ starting to turn into a Man. Damn he has gotten big since we drafted him. 
 

breakout candidate. 

Taking notes from Chinn on late growth spurts

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I hope we don’t keep saying this. Tampa isn't going to sit Fournette, Evans, Vea and Brady in the 2nd quarter. I’m not even sure how many others they sat. Tampa even with Gabbert had a lead going into halftime. Tampa rested a lot of guys and certainly weren’t playing for a division title. We lost to the Bucs and that sealed our fate, so acting like losing that game didn’t have any impact on yesterday’s games is a bit disingenuous. Heck, even the Saints truly had nothing to play for and maybe don’t go for it on 4th down, etc.

We are comparing two different worlds of hypotheticals... I used "could" for a reason. Meaning chance. I did not say "would." I understand where you are coming from...but its not really worth either one of us to spend time debating.  Unless we are living in the block universe, and if that is the case.... then pull up a chair bc we will be here for awhile. 

Edited January 9, 2023 by TheCasillas

[The Lobo]

Wilks is awesome, it’s him or Harbaugh to me, and we apparently are out on Harbaugh so…

[BIGH2001]

42 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Hats off to wilks going 6-6 as interim head coach. I do wonder if he started sooner if we have a winning record. Funny how Eddie sealed the season with a game winning kick, and could have sealed a playoff birth if he did it in Atlanta too

I think with wilks all year we either win the division or are competing for the last wild card spot. I’d give us two more wins (Cleveland and Arizona) to get to 9-8. 

[Tr3ach]

2 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

I think with wilks all year we either win the division or are competing for the last wild card spot. I’d give us two more wins (Cleveland and Arizona) to get to 9-8. 

I could see that but then pretty much gurantee to get bounced in the first round because their strategy doesnt work against good teams.

[TheCasillas]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Why? He had 1 catch for 2 yards before the Saints went into prevent mode on the last drive and left him wide open for his second catch. 17 catches and 28 catches in 2 years doesn’t make me giddy. 1 TD in 2 years?

In the 2021 draft, 4 WRs drafted later than him, a WR dumped by his drafting team, a WR who missed 16 games due to injury, and 3 RBs drafted later than him have more career receptions than Marshall. Heck, our rock handed backup RB and backup TE drafted that year have only 6 receptions less.

He played better than his rookie year but 28 receptions by your WR2? That’s awful. He was 152th in receptions according to ESPN before this week and his 2 receptions. That’s including RBs and TEs. Outside of the OL, who were healthy this year, Marshall was 2nd in offensive snap counts to DJ.

Also, having a big WR doesn’t give me warm fuzzies with 1 TD after 2 years.

KB (2 years) 136-1949-16TD

Funchess (2 years) 54-844-9TD

Marshall (2 years) 45-628-1TD

Not living up to Funchess, who was drafted around the same slot and was the 3rd receiving option behind KB/Ginn and Olsen isn’t good even if we don’t have Cam. Cam was never putting up 5000 yard passing seasons. We only had 300-500 less passing yards the past two years than we did in Cam’s MVP season (10-15% less).

I guess Marshall could break out at some time but it’s not good that he’s not even close to living up to two big WRs who had to contend with Olsen. Heck, take out Olsen and WRs may have more receiving yards in 2021-2022 than 2014-2016.

IMHO, we need a better WR to pair with DJ.

These are all great stats but they are missing one key piece to why TMJ hasnt had a chance to do more.... he was stuck behind Rhule's negligance of developing young players and getting them on the field. 

All of TMJ's rookie year we were forcing him to play slot... he isn't a slot reciver. Yes, he played slot many times at LSU but that is far different at the NFL level. TMJ's real opportunities to play didnt happen until after Robbie Anderson left. I am not going to hold that aginst this guy, when he made NFL capable catches over NFL starting corners week to week during our 4-2 span.

 

I dont understand why you are using the language Saints went into prevent mode on the last drive and left him wide open for his second catch.  

We were in max protect on that play and the saints brought a disguised blitz. They had a single safety high (honey badger) that shaded DJ Moore's side and TMJ beat his man who had outside leverage (Lattimore) on his in route.

Loose statements like that make it hard to have a conversation with you, bc im not sure how much you are speaking from knowledge (which normally you do) and how much you are making up... like the above example. I enjoy our debates but this one doesn't have much foundation outside speculation and loose projections.

 

It makes debates difficult on here bc it introduces doubt in statements of certainty. 

[ickmule]

36 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I could see that but then pretty much gurantee to get bounced in the first round because their strategy doesnt work against good teams.

Not the fault of Wilks. This team isn’t his and he did a damn good job keeping it together.  He’s a good man and he will land on his feet and kick ass no matter where he ends up.  I for  one hope it’s In Carolina and HC.  He has earned it.  

Edited January 9, 2023 by ickmule

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’ve seen it posted multiple times as if Eddy’s the reason why we didn’t make it with no context around Tampa losing. That’s why I responded. We didn’t make the playoffs because we lost to Tampa, simple as that. This week is irrelevant because Tampa locked the division up last week.

Then my statement as precise as i attempted to position. I was leaning into I wonder if Wilks could have won more if he had started the season as HC. That's as far as I wanted to go down the path of "What if"