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I feel very strongly about this... Derek Carr.

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Side Note: This is what Howe had to say about Russell Wilson in the article linked above

There’s skepticism Wilson can be salvaged by new Broncos head coach Sean Payton. According to multiple league officials, in recent years with the Seahawks and Broncos, Wilson wanted too much say in the offense, preferring a pocket-passing scheme similar to Tom Brady’s and Aaron Rodgers’ rather than one that highlighted his mobility.

Though it’s perfectly normal for a starting quarterback to have some say in the scheme, Wilson’s contentions raised red flags, officials said. His greatest quality is his deep ball, and Wilson wanted to push the ball downfield too frequently, particularly on early downs when short passes underneath the coverage can be viewed as a more valuable play, complementary to the running game.

If Wilson wants to get back on track, the belief is that he’ll need to be open to a run-heavy offense with read-option traits and taking what the defense gives him, according to those who have studied him from near and afar.

 

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1 minute ago, travisura said:

Did I just see Daniel Jones get compared to Cam?

True and equal dual threat like Cam. Talented runner, more talented thrower but can get tough yards or break out in the open field. Yes. He grew up watching Cam, grew to be a big guy and run threat himself.

I like the story AND comparison. 

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All of yall comparing Carr to Baker are cherry picking your stats - you can't compare total INT's.....you compare INT %.  Carr threw alot more than Baker. 

For their careers Carr had an INT % of 2.0 vs Baker at 2.8 - HUGE difference.  2.0 puts him around 13-15 in the league, 2.8 is one of the worst

Carr's Passer rating is 91.8 vs Baker at 86....again huge difference.  That would put him 16-17 in the league vs Baker at 25+

Carr also only won 6 games in 2022, but 4 games he led a 4th quarter comeback and 3 they won - you cannot understate how important that is when judging a QB.  Baker has had 7 GWD's total in his career where Carr has had 33 - even half that is double Baker over the same time frame

Keep in mind those first 2 stats include 2022 which was his worst in both categories - so either you believe we get the 3-time Pro Bowl, top 10 statistically QB and 2022 is an exception, or that 2022 is the future Carr.  But at least the evaluation is reasonable stats.

Carr is nowhere near as bad as Baker or Darnold - he has been a top 10 QB his whole career

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Just now, Stingray3030 said:

All of yall comparing Carr to Baker are cherry picking your stats - you can't compare total INT's.....you compare INT %.  Carr threw alot more than Baker. 

For their careers Carr had an INT % of 2.0 vs Baker at 2.8 - HUGE difference.  2.0 puts him around 13-15 in the league, 2.8 is one of the worst

Carr's Passer rating is 91.8 vs Baker at 86....again huge difference.  That would put him 16-17 in the league vs Baker at 25+

Carr also only won 6 games in 2022, but 4 games he led a 4th quarter comeback and 3 they won - you cannot understate how important that is when judging a QB.  Baker has had 7 GWD's total in his career where Carr has had 33 - even half that is double Baker over the same time frame

Keep in mind those first 2 stats include 2022 which was his worst in both categories - so either you believe we get the 3-time Pro Bowl, top 10 statistically QB and 2022 is an exception, or that 2022 is the future Carr.  But at least the evaluation is reasonable stats.

Carr is nowhere near as bad as Baker or Darnold - he has been a top 10 QB his whole career

Never compared him to Baker

Just Baker is the only player to have more ints in the NFL .  Since Baker has been in the league.

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5 minutes ago, GOAT said:

a lot of you guys don't learn from your mistakes in life, do you?

To be fair, is it really wise to assume that Frank Reich would fail at something just because Matt Rhule did?

That'd be kind of like saying Tom Hanks could never win an Oscar because Adam Sandler can't.

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Just now, ncfan said:

Never compared him to Baker

Just Baker is the only player to have more ints in the NFL .  Since Baker has been in the league.

Wasn't talking to just you - but that is a useless comparison as I stated above.  Trevor Lawrence has thrown more interceptions in the postseason than Baker too - equally as useless

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Just now, Stingray3030 said:

Wasn't talking to just you - but that is a useless comparison as I stated above.  Trevor Lawrence has thrown more interceptions in the postseason than Baker too - equally as useless

Actually I’ll have to admit my mistake.  Only Matt Ryan has thrown more

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