Carr Watch

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Considering the recent experiences of Tepper, Fitterer and Reich, I'd be surprised if all three of them weren't in favor of moving up to draft the Panthers next franchise QB.  Now, if they don't view at least one of these guys as a franchise caliber QB, chances for signing Carr (or some other vet) go up immensely.    

[mrcompletely11]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He started off with Luck already there, added Brissett. Tried to rebuild Wentz but it didn't work.

The Colts didn't use a top draft pick on one while he was coach. Word was Reich wanted to but the team stuck with veterans.

Again, I will totally admit Wentz is a nutso headcase that is physically broken at this point and totally tanked the last 2 games of 2021 but having said that he had a pretty damn good year under reich.  Pretty clear that druggie Irsay made another unhinged decision instead of just rolling with reich/wentz for one more season.   Feels a bit tepper/teddy esque

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Edited February 19, 2023 by mrcompletely11

[DaveThePanther2008]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The fug you are talking about, if reich wanted carr we would have traded for him or at the least brought him in like the saints did.  We didnt.  Move on

Why would they move on it.  Why trade when most knew he was going to be release....Duuuhh

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Why would they move on it.  Why trade when most knew he was going to be release....Duuuhh

Goddamn dude you would trade to acquire him and not let him hit the free market

[pantherj]

The press made it seem as though Reich was to blame, but apparently the Colts owner thinks he's a QB guru and interfered with Reich's coaching reign. It didn't go well.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Goddamn dude you would trade to acquire him and not let him hit the free market

Why would you give up picks to get a QB that is going to be released.  

I never said he was for sure going to be our QB.  I don't know what Reich, Fitterer and Tepper want.  Someone in that group may not want a retread QB.  I was saying the Colts tried 3x to get him.  You asked for proof so you got it.  

I do believe he is an option.  

You move the goal post when you ask for something and you get your answer. 

 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Why would you give up picks to get a QB that is going to be released.  

I never said he was for sure going to be our QB.  I don't know what Reich, Fitterer and Tepper want.  Someone in that group may not want a retread QB.  I was saying the Colts tried 3x to get him.  You asked for proof so you got it.  

I do believe he is an option.  

You move the goal post when you ask for something and you get your answer. 

 

A random blogger isnt proof.  And if they wanted carr they would have done like the saints did and bring him in to talk things over, we didnt.  If we were interested why wouldnt we at least bring him in when would could have acquired him 100% instead of letting him do a tour and getting into a bidding war?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Goddamn dude you would trade to acquire him and not let him hit the free market

Derek had no interest in cooperating with the Raiders once they benched him with two games remaining in the 2022 season and he didn't have to w/a no trade clause in his contract.

Also, there is virtually no doubt that Carr will be signed to a substantial contract by one of the better teams in search of a QB during the next month or so.  He's in the driver's seat w/no need to rush.

Edited February 19, 2023 by NanuqoftheNorth

[NanuqoftheNorth]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A random blogger isnt proof.  And if they wanted carr they would have done like the saints did and bring him in to talk things over, we didnt.  If we were interested why wouldnt we at least bring him in when would could have acquired him 100% instead of letting him do a tour and getting into a bidding war?

Most teams likely realized Carr had no intention of approving a trade.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Derek had no interest in cooperating with the Raiders once they bench him with two games remaining in the 2022 season and he didn't have to w/a no trade clause in his contract.

Also, there is virtually no doubt that Carr will be signed to a substantial contract by one of the better teams in search of a QB during the next month or so.  He's in the driver's seat w/no need to rush.

But teams didnt know that at the time, he just chose to fuged the raiders at the end.  If he would met with the saints he would have met with us if we wanted him.   If reich and co really really likes carr as dave suggests then he would be a panther on 2/19.  They would have found a way instead of letting him hit free agency whereas now as you allude aint no damn way he is coming here without a lights out offer

Edited February 19, 2023 by mrcompletely11

[ForJimmy]

43 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Why would they move on it.  Why trade when most knew he was going to be release....Duuuhh

The point is several teams have already interviewed Carr. The Panthers aren’t one of those teams. If we were remotely interested I feel like we would have bright him in for an interview minimum. It would be a huge cap hurdle to even sign him and our staff is clearly built to develop a QB.

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

The point is several teams have already interviewed Carr. The Panthers aren’t one of those teams. If we were remotely interested I feel like we would have bright him in for an interview minimum. It would be a huge cap hurdle to even sign him and our staff is clearly built to develop a QB.

some men you just can't reach

[Cdparr7]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

some men you just can't reach

In Dave’s defense, just about everyone in the media leading up to Carr’s release said that there was about zero chance that Carr would be traded A) because he didn’t want to take any draft capital from his next team B) he wanted to test the open market. The Saints probably did a Saints thing and kicked the wheels on Carr before his contract expired just in case or the Raiders just didn’t give a fug if he visited.

He also had a no trade clause so you can’t just trade for him.

I believe Schefter or Ian said that the Panthers had interest and would likely kick the tires on him “later” because it will be lengthy process. 
 

My guess is Reich wanted to get the rest of his Offensive Staff together, mainly Thomas Brown who was hired Friday. If the Panthers make a request for him to visit , it will be this upcoming week.

 

[Mr. Scot]