REPORT: Panthers to aggressive pursue trade up to get a QB

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Reich wanting to take a chance that may get him fired if it doesn‘t work out. 
A rookie QB would give him an excuse if the Panthers don’t do well but if they fail after signing Carr it could be a short career here for Reich. 
I just don’t think Carr can get this team to the Super Bowl. 

Reich apparently does.

[stan786]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That would make it pretty clear they're serious.

Person speculated that it's Frank Reich driving the interest. Looking at it from the outside, that would seem to make sense. I know Fitterer prefers the draft and develop route but Reich was pretty effusive about Carr in his combine presser.

Yeah i've always felt the visit to Carolina will be the true indicator for us being deadly serious vs just curious, I think if we do get that visit it probably indicates we are ready to push that way.

Though if early rumors on Rodgers wanting to return to GB are true we may get beaten to the punch by the Jets regardless.

This will be a fascinating week.

[TLGPanthersFan]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Reich apparently does.

His funeral. Didn’t work out with Wentz. Won’t work out with Carr. 

Edited March 6, 2023 by TLGPanthersFan

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

His funeral. Didn’t work out with Wentz. Won’t work out with Care. 

Yeah, Wentz and Carr's situations are pretty much nothing alike.

[ForJimmy]

9, CMC picks, plus next year's 1st.  Does that get us to 3??

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, Wentz and Carr's situations are pretty much nothing alike.

They are pretty identical if we are being honest.  Both of their former teams dont think they can win with them playing qb

[Tarheel119]

I’m thinking the Panthers are more aggressive on the draft front than Carr front. However, that is my opinion. I do think Carr instantly becomes the best QB in the NFC South, I’m just not in a position where I think we’re ready for a move of that caliber yet. 

[FuFuLamePoo]

1 hour ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

Conversation with Carr today is supposed to be centered around money with his agent present. If the conversation goes well, he will visit in person and will likely leave with a contract.

This will be the fourth conversation he has had with the Panthers. He visited in person at the combine, and had two other phone conversations prior to the combine.

If conversation does not lead to further interest from either side, the Panthers will be searching for a dance partner in the Top 5.

Thanks for the intel but this is so painfully unexciting lol

[stan786]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, Wentz and Carr's situations are pretty much nothing alike.

I disagree with this a bit, Wentz was legitimately good statistically right up until that last year he got benched and was thought highly enough to pull a first round pick in a trade that offseason. I dont think Carr is destined to Wentz, but its not like Wentz was considered total garbage when he left the Eagles. A lot felt like he just needed to find a new home.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, stan786 said:

I disagree with this a bit, Wentz was legitimately good statistically right up until that last year he got benched and was thought highly enough to pull a first round pick in a trade that offseason. I dont think Carr is destined to Wentz, but its not like Wentz was considered total garbage when he left the Eagles. A lot felt like he just needed to find a new home.

Reich's reported argument for bringing Wentz to the Colts was that he believed he could "fix" him (he later acknowledged that was a mistake).

If you've seen the comments from his combine presser, Reich isn't talking about "fixing" Carr.

[TLGPanthersFan]

15 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, Wentz and Carr's situations are pretty much nothing alike.

Carr is just a Cousins. He may get us 12 wins but he will be the reason we never make a Super Bowl. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Carr is just a Cousins. He may get us 12 wins but he will be the reason we never make a Super Bowl. 

That's your opinion. I get it.

Mine is that when it comes to these decisions, I trust the people we currently have making them.

If they decide they want Carr, I'm on board.

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Carr is just a Cousins. He may get us 12 wins but he will be the reason we never make a Super Bowl. 

Never? Are be barred from getting into a SB for life if we sign him to a 3 or 4 year deal?

[stan786]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Reich's reported argument for bringing Wentz to the Colts was that he believed he could "fix" him (he later acknowledged that was a mistake).

If you've seen the comments from his combine presser, Reich isn't talking about "fixing" Carr.

I mean he wasnt really talking about fixing Wentz when you read his presser on him, he basically said that it was a team thing and you cant always expect the QB to be Superman.

"When you have superpowers, quote-unquote, and in ’17, it was like he did have superpowers, he made so many plays, ridiculous plays, you just can’t do that all the time,” Reich said. “And then in ’20, the protection wasn’t as good as it was in ’17, and so it required him to do more with less, because they had so many guys hurt and because of the other dynamics that were there."

However, Reich didn't completely absolve Wentz of the blame.

"So, yeah, some of it’s him," Reich said. "Just get rid of the ball, help your offensive line out, it’s not just the protection isn’t good. The quarterback can help the protection, just getting rid of the ball. But it’s not all Carson’s fault either. It’s everybody’s fault.”

Its closer to how people are blaming the Raiders org for Carr than it is about fixing him.

In hindsight sure fixing him generally became the idea, but at the time it wasnt like Reich was out there saying "I have to fix him" it was more I believe in him and think he got a bad draw last season.

Edited March 6, 2023 by stan786