Brinson basically calls "collusion," but essentially says it's nearly impossible to prove

[top dawg]

9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Never said he's the GOAT.

 

All I said is he's a winning franchise QB. As a starter he's won 75% of his games.

 

And compared to the QB's we have in the past he's clearly a step up in talent. Sorry you don't like him. But I will debate anybody on him as a QB. Only a handful of QB's in this league are better than Lamar. That's the type of QB we are dealing with.

 

 

Lamar, without weapons, has beaten those "handful of QBs'" asses also. I only bring it up (again) to show that he can compete, and help us to be legit competitors (money aside). 

Edited March 8, 2023 by top dawg

[CamWhoaaCam]

Just now, top dawg said:

Lamar, without weapons, has beaten those "handful of QBs" asses also. I only bring it up (again) to show that he can compete, and help us to be legit competitors (money aside). 

Lamar talent can't be questioned.

 

Look at all my post defending him. It's always about his "contract".

 

Nobody is questioning his talent. Bring that dude to the NFC and watch him make a team a contender overnight. He's already proven even in the AFC with those elite QB's he can still win games with a lesser roster than Mahomes/Burrow/Allen. 

 

Last time we had a guy like that it was Cam Newton. Greg Olsen and not much else. 

[Smithers]

35 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

Apparently around Week 1 the offer was around $180 mm guaranteed. He said no. It then dropped because he was injured again

Just said on espn that Jackson’s camp reporting that the Ravens best offer was 139M guaranteed.  If that’s true then I’d agree that’s low compared to the other top 5 QB contracts out there.  

[run-run-pass-punt]

I believe it. The powers that be in the NFL don't like people that don't walk in-step with the company line. Can't be having guys out there representing themselves. What would that lead to...

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I believe it. The powers that be in the NFL don't like people that don't walk in-step with the company line. Can't be having guys out there representing themselves. What would that lead to...

Actually it'd lead to a lot of guys getting screwed over because the average NFL player isn't going to be well versed enough in contract language to negotiate their own deal.

[run-run-pass-punt]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Actually it'd lead to a lot of guys getting screwed over because the average NFL player isn't going to be well versed enough in contract language to negotiate their own deal.

Sure that would be a partial outcome, but I think the NFLPA would step in to assist these guys (as well as the brighter players helping out the others) if it became a common trend, and they'd ultimately be keeping more of their money.

But agents have always had too much power and reward for too little contribution imho.

[SmokinwithWilly]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Actually it'd lead to a lot of guys getting screwed over because the average NFL player isn't going to be well versed enough in contract language to negotiate their own deal.

The first business deal with my own money I ever negotiated I got taken to the cleaners because I was outmatched and had no clue. Never again. The fees I pay my attorney are all now figured into the cost of doing business. 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

Sure that would be a partial outcome, but I think the NFLPA would step in to assist these guys (as well as the brighter players helping out the others) if it became a common trend, and they'd ultimately be keeping more of their money.

But agents have always had too much power and reward for too little contribution imho.

That'd be the major outcome.

And to be clear, the NFLPA certifies those agents. They don't have the resources to basically hold every single player's hand through contract negotiations.

Helping filter the agents is their best form of assistance.

Edited March 8, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The first business deal with my own money I ever negotiated I got taken to the cleaners because I was outmatched and had no clue. Never again. The fees I pay my attorney are all now figured into the cost of doing business. 

"A man's got to know his limitations."

- Harry Callahan

[Kentucky Panther]

I haven’t read but the first page. Does anyone actually believe this is collusion? I hope not 

[Jaxel]

I think the is more so teams not wanting to do work for Ravens. Even if a team comes out an offers a massive contract to Jackson, it's more likely than not that the Ravens will match the sheet and it will be for not. It's not like this is the first time something like that has happened.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Jaxel said:

I think the is more so teams not wanting to do work for Ravens. Even if a team comes out an offers a massive contract to Jackson, it's more likely than not that the Ravens will match the sheet and it will be for not. It's not like this is the first time something like that has happened.

Pretty much.

Schefter points out the same result has happened several times before to franchise tagged players.

That's why the tag exists.

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That'd be the major outcome.

And to be clear, the NFLPA certifies those agents. They don't have the resources to basically hold every single player's hand through contract negotiations.

Helping filter the agents is their best form of assistance.

I would also think that it would open the NFLPA to lawsuits if one player gets certain contract concessions and another player didn't. That's more legal BS than they're probably interested in getting involved in. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, SmokinwithWilly said:

I would also think that it would open the NFLPA to lawsuits if one player gets certain contract concessions and another player didn't. That's more legal BS than they're probably interested in getting involved in. 

Absolutely.

And heck, If you don't like the deal that your agent is getting for you, well then you can just fire them and get a different one.

How would you fire the Players Association?

Edited March 8, 2023 by Mr. Scot