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Legal Tampering Period Opens Today

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50 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

And if I'm not mistaken teams can only speak with agents and not the players directly. 

The whole thing was just CYA. Everyone knows that tampering is a way of life. Having this "legal tampering" period just removed the awkwardness of having complicated multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts signed mere minutes after FA opened while pretending all that got negotiated out and agreed to in less than ten minutes. It was always completely absurd. This is just window dressing

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1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We have the best defense in the division.

 

We very well may have the best QB in the division. We are a #1 WR away from being the favorites to win the division. We would basically replace DJ with a better WR in Hopkins.

 

How is that crazy?

Rookie QBs don't win divisions and we are not a #1 WR away because the rest of the room stinks.  Plus, Nuke is washed.

That's why that statement was nuts.Eye Googly Eyes GIF

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15 minutes ago, Leaky_Faucet said:

Panthers are expected to kick the tires on Jakobi Meyers (no rhyme intended). Will depend on his interest and willingness to structure his contract to suit them.

I like it, another Jericho Cotchery type.  The price has to be right though.  He's solid, but not worth breaking the bank to acquire.

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4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Either you hell of high on Derek Carr or you hell of low on the QB's in this draft.

 

Hopkins isn't washed he was suspended for 7 games and was only 300 yards behind DJ Moore in receiving yards.lmao

 

We gotta stop overrating DJ Moore on this board. He's a borderline #1 more of a high end #2 WR.

How many rookies have won their division??

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6 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

How many rookies have won their division??

Honestly, not that crazy to think that it can happen.  Look at the division we're in.  Other than the Saints, Panthers really well could, if the QB plays like a #1 pick.  Assuming they bring Boze and Foreman back, we have a RB threat and great O-line unit.  Defense should play well in this new scheme.  We have the personnel and the proper coaches.  Pass catchers is mainly what we need now and I'm sure it is going to get addressed.

Bucs, no way, they'll tank this year.

Falcons, seem like they're rolling with Ridder, nope for them either.

Saints really are the main threat for the divison.

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7 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Either you hell of high on Derek Carr or you hell of low on the QB's in this draft.

 

Hopkins isn't washed he was suspended for 7 games and was only 300 yards behind DJ Moore in receiving yards.lmao

 

We gotta stop overrating DJ Moore on this board. He's a borderline #1 more of a high end #2 WR.

Name rookie QBs that have won their division.  I'll wait.  That's a lot of research for such a small list....if you can call it a list.  Let's not go back to the before the 90's, just the past 30-ish years to save you some time.

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22 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The whole thing was just CYA. Everyone knows that tampering is a way of life. Having this "legal tampering" period just removed the awkwardness of having complicated multi-year, multi-million dollar contracts signed mere minutes after FA opened while pretending all that got negotiated out and agreed to in less than ten minutes. It was always completely absurd. This is just window dressing

Yes it is. Agents are always talking to teams about their client's. Especially if their clients are pending FA's. That's why as a player you should have an agent.  Lamar has really hurt himself by not having one.

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1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

If you scared go to church!

 

 

I do go to church, but not because I'm scared....irrelevant to the conversation.

Anyway, if we DO happen to win the division it's for the simple fact it's the weakest division in the NFL.  We have the Saints to beat, that's all.  The Bucs and Falcons are in worse shape than we are.

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