Anthony Richardson Pro Day

[mrcompletely11]

A small part of me wishes we would have kept moore and traded up to 3 for AR. 

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

That would feel more accurate if the fact that his quarterback coach from 2013-2017 wasn't the same guy that developed Josh Allen and is now his offensive coordinator.

who was Cam's QB coach for the first two years and how many years experience as a QB coach did Dorsey have before becoming Cam's?

 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

A small part of me wishes we would have kept moore and traded up to 3 for AR. 

It’s that all it would have taken? Next year’s first and 25’s 2nd?

[frankw]

I get both arguments in favor and against. But I think Richardson has a solid chance of being pretty good if he ends up on the right team with the right coaches.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s that all it would have taken? Next year’s first and 25’s 2nd?

Word was the asking price for #3 wasn't significantly different than the asking price for #1.

Given that, why settle for #3?

Edited March 30, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[ForJimmy]

Just now, rayzor said:

who was Cam's QB coach for the first two years and how many years experience as a QB coach did Dorsey have before becoming Cam's?

 

Daboll developed Allen and is why Jones looked decent this year in NYG. I’d argue Allen regressed when Daboll left.

[ForJimmy]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Word was the asking price for #3 wasn't significantly different than the asking price for #1.

Given that, why settle for #3?

That’s kind of what I thought…

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Daboll developed Allen and is why Jones looked decent this year in NYG. I’d argue Allen regressed when Daboll left.

I'd argue Allen was throwing with a partially torn UCL nerve in his elbow this year.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

who was Cam's QB coach for the first two years and how many years experience as a QB coach did Dorsey have before becoming Cam's?

As I recall, the only experience Dorsey had prior to becoming Newton's quarterback coach was working as one of our scouts.

Would he have been as good as he is now if he'd been allowed to really coach? Don't know, but I do know Rivera overall just wasn't good for Newton.

To be honest, at this point I think Dorsey's a little overrated as a head coaching prospect, partially because he's using Allen in much the same way Rivera used Newton. It won't surprise me if that ends up shortening his career.

Edited March 30, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[XClown1986]

8 minutes ago, rayzor said:

who was Cam's QB coach for the first two years and how many years experience as a QB coach did Dorsey have before becoming Cam's?

 

Yeah, I see your point. And actually Daboll may be more responsible for Allen's development anyway. Norv at least pushed Cam to play differently, and he responded. That should have happened much earlier in his career.

Edited March 30, 2023 by XClown1986

[mrcompletely11]

5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It’s that all it would have taken? Next year’s first and 25’s 2nd?

Do the same trade for the bears minus Moore.  gotta think they would have done that.  If not oh well

[jayboogieman]

4 minutes ago, frankw said:

I think Richardson has a solid chance of being pretty good if he ends up on the right team with the right coaches.

That's supposedly Frank and his staff with their 200 years NFL experience

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

I'd argue Allen was throwing with a partially torn UCL nerve in his elbow this year.

Ok and why did Daniel Jones look much better when Daboll went to NYG?

[rayzor]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Word back then was Rivera and Hurney didn't want any "hard coaching" on Newton. They were afraid of hurting his feelings.

Dorsey basically wound up being a "buddy", and there were a load of indications that Newton didn't really respect him or see him as a valid coach.

Buffalo actually let him coach however he felt he needed to.

they didn't really surround him with good experienced coaches up until Turner.