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Examining The First 3 Rounds

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3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

QB, TE, WR, OLB/Edge, RB, S--in that order.

Funny how we all have so many variations of opinions--probably because we have not seen the new system and how players will be used.

But this is so wrong. It is just wrong.  It is very incorrect.  (Kidding--who the hell knows?) I see your point--I would love to see us grab a TE and OLB/Edge just because the draft is so deep there. I think we need a CB and possibly an ILB.  Have no idea exactly what Luvu, Chinn, and YGM are going to look like.  I think they should sign a free agent or two to help us prepare our mocks.  Very rude of them. 😵

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Just now, MHS831 said:

Funny how we all have so many variations of opinions--probably because we have not seen the new system and how players will be used.

But this is so wrong. It is just wrong.  It is very incorrect.  (Kidding--who the hell knows?) I see your point--I would love to see us grab a TE and OLB/Edge just because the draft is so deep there. I think we need a CB and possibly an ILB.  Have no idea exactly what Luvu, Chinn, and YGM are going to look like.  I think they should sign a free agent or two to help us prepare our mocks.  Very rude of them. 😵

The entire FA D-front are rentals.  Yes, we have players there this year, but I don't want to start a bunch of rookies in 2024.  D. Williams, Anderson, R. Williams--our project DEs are all on one year deals.  Tuttle is basically a two-year and I honestly don't like the fit at NT.  Roy sucks and is on his last year.  McCall has another year, but an unknown and we have not locked up Brown, who is in his final year. 

Funny how we sign some seat-warming pedestrian FAs for our D-line and everyone wants to gloss over it in the draft.

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52 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I read an article or comment about Boutte that turned me against him--they accused him of "lazy" route running and inconsistent hands.  For what it is worth to anyone, I took him off my board for that reason, because when I see his name, that is what pops into my brain.

Ew that would explain his regression… I would like to swap Boutte for Tillman then. Downs in 2nd or Tillman in 3rd. 

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12 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

The entire FA D-front are rentals.  Yes, we have players there this year, but I don't want to start a bunch of rookies in 2024.  D. Williams, Anderson, R. Williams--our project DEs are all on one year deals.  Tuttle is basically a two-year and I honestly don't like the fit at NT.  Roy sucks and is on his last year.  McCall has another year, but an unknown and we have not locked up Brown, who is in his final year. 

Funny how we sign some seat-warming pedestrian FAs for our D-line and everyone wants to gloss over it in the draft.

I will never complain about building up our trenches. OL/DL picks are always a welcome sight in the draft IMO. We need depth at both plus some eventual replacements as you stated.

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I think there is some gold in the mid to late 4th round.  I would be 100% on board with trading back from #39 if we were able to pick up a late 3rd or early mid round 4th to add to our war chest.

Here is how I'd love to see it play out:

#1 - Young or Stroud - no preference

2nd - trade back towards the end of the round and pick up Derek Hall (OLB/DE)

3rd (93) - Eli Ricks (CB)

later 3rd - early 4th from trade - Mims, A.T. Perry, Rasheed Rice, or Cedric Tillman

4th (114) - Luke Schoonmaker (TE)

4th (132) - Colby Wooten (Big DE)

5th (145) - Vorhees (G) if he drops this far, can't pass up solid talent or Tyler Steen / Jalen Duncan to shore up our tackle depth

 

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11 minutes ago, Mother Grabber said:

surprised to see Johnston as the only WR above 6’, and he’s a medium sized 6’3”. No big guys this year.

Tillman is 6’3” and has some potential. He was UT’s WR1 over Hyatt before he was injured. Maybe we can get him in the 3rd/4th?

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5 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

I think there is some gold in the mid to late 4th round.  I would be 100% on board with trading back from #39 if we were able to pick up a late 3rd or early mid round 4th to add to our war chest.

Here is how I'd love to see it play out:

#1 - Young or Stroud - no preference

2nd - trade back towards the end of the round and pick up Derek Hall (OLB/DE)

3rd (93) - Eli Ricks (CB)

later 3rd - early 4th from trade - Mims, A.T. Perry, Rasheed Rice, or Cedric Tillman

4th (114) - Luke Schoonmaker (TE)

4th (132) - Colby Wooten (Big DE)

5th (145) - Vorhees (G) if he drops this far, can't pass up solid talent or Tyler Steen / Jalen Duncan to shore up our tackle depth

 

You and I are definitely in love with the same gems later--I (personally) would add Tyler Scott, WR Cincinnati to your WRs at the end of round 3/early 4.  Vorhees will be recovering from surgery, but when he gets healthy, he can beast and play multiple positions.  Perfect developmental OL/depth for now.

Schoonmaker is the TE nobody is talking about but he is solid.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

QB at #1, BPA the rest of the way.

Of course it changes on draft day and all the boards and mocks fall apart after the first 20 picks or so, but I think the BPA is likely to be an Edge-I think there are 14 (about 10 of which would be good fits for the Panthers, imo) edge rushers in this draft that are good enough to start early.  However, someone will fall--and that is what makes picking early in round 2 interesting

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11 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Of course it changes on draft day and all the boards and mocks fall apart after the first 20 picks or so, but I think the BPA is likely to be an Edge-I think there are 14 (about 10 of which would be good fits for the Panthers, imo) edge rushers in this draft that are good enough to start early.  However, someone will fall--and that is what makes picking early in round 2 interesting

Edge rushers and TEs are the strength of this draft class on paper. It'd be pretty sweet to come out of day two with one of each.

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4 hours ago, MHS831 said:

That is another position that is a bit unclear right now.  We have McCall (56.8) who was decent in limited duty last year and Roy (54.0), who was slightly below average, according to PFF, my only measure of their performance.  Both weigh over 330 lbs.  Then we sign Tuttle, and everyone says he will play nose between Brown and Williams.  I do not see that.  I see YGM (pass rushing specialist on the inside?) and Williams in a rotation with Tuttle and Brown.  If so, are they going with McCall and Roy at NT?  I would hope not.

I actually like the idea of trying out Roy at NT. That's what he was in college and I think his natural Position. He's so big and wide (built like a square), I think he might thrive. If it works out, that give balance on either side with Tuttle and Brown.

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18 hours ago, Smithers said:

If Forbes is there at our 2nd, sure would be hard to pass him up.  He would lock down the nickel spot immediately and gets his hands on a lot of balls.

I think he's the second best CB in this class. Absolute freak ability ball skills

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