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Why I believe the pick will be AR-15


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26 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Too raw for him to go #1 overall when there are better prospects available. He may have the highest "ceiling" in your opinion but that does not make him the better prospect coming out of college. Let me see you do it in college before I believe you can do it in the NFL. He hasn't thrown for 20 TDs in a single season in college. Does that mean he can't do it at the NFL level? Of course not but there is no guarantee he can either. At least with the other QBs their numbers and play align more with a #1 overall prospect more than Anthony Richardson's does.

His bust % and Youngs are probably both the same. If we don't go Stroud I think I would prefer him to young

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22 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

He should embrace it and instead champion mental health. 

The sissifying of American men financially supported by the rest of the world IS bowing to hate.

Stand up!

 

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29 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

He should embrace it and instead champion mental health. 

The sissifying of American men financially supported by the rest of the world IS bowing to hate.

Stand up!

 

He should do whatever he feels it’s right. It’s his life to live as he sees fit. I like him. Seems like a very insightful human.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's not that simple. The game that made me a Richardson believer was his game against FSU. He went 9/27 in that game. So why did it make me a believer? Because I don't think I've ever seen a QB throw so many catchable balls to receivers who couldn't catch a damn thing. Richardson's state sheet lies if you watch the games. Yeah, he needs to get more consistent. But he's not nearly as bad of a thrower of the football as you'd expect just looking at the stats.

I'm surprised it took that long. Every game I've watched of his I've sat up in my chair and thought "Damn".

I've said a few times he's going to get GMs fired. I can see us looking back in 5 years and saying "well it's nice that Stroud is a consistent Top 15 / 20 QB, but how did we pass over league MVP Richardson again?"

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5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I'm surprised it took that long. Every game I've watched of his I've sat up in my chair and thought "Damn".

I've said a few times he's going to get GMs fired. I can see us looking back in 5 years and saying "well it's nice that Stroud is a consistent Top 15 / 20 QB, but how did we pass over league MVP Richardson again?"

It was just the first game I'd watched of his.

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1 hour ago, rippadonn said:

He should embrace it and instead champion mental health. 

The sissifying of American men financially supported by the rest of the world IS bowing to hate.

Stand up!

 

He has embraced mental health - he's distanced himself from a (very marketable) nickname that associates him with mass school shootings. 

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It was just the first game I'd watched of his.

Fair enough - we're on the same page with Richardson.

If you take him you're taking that home run swing (to follow up on that home run swing you took by trading away every-fuging-thing to get to #1 overall).

It's the brass balls on the table, "I trust my expensively assembled coaching staff to improve this player" move - and really it's just the short accuracy you have to work on. That's a footwork issue 'cos he's so inexperienced and was surrounded by dogshit coaches in Florida (and dogshit receivers tbf). 

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8 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Fair enough - we're on the same page with Richardson.

If you take him you're taking that home run swing (to follow up on that home run swing you took by trading away every-fuging-thing to get to #1 overall).

It's the brass balls on the table, "I trust my expensively assembled coaching staff to improve this player" move - and really it's just the short accuracy you have to work on. That's a footwork issue 'cos he's so inexperienced and was surrounded by dogshit coaches in Florida (and dogshit receivers tbf). 

Yeah, his evaluation IMO comes completely down to what you think he has between the ears and how coachable he is because if he can adapt to the NFL from a playbook and reading a defense perspective and work on some technical flaws to become more consistent as a passer then he's gonna be the best NFL QB out of this class.

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, his evaluation IMO comes completely down to what you think he has between the ears and how coachable he is because if he can adapt to the NFL from a playbook and reading a defense perspective and work on some technical flaws to become more consistent as a passer then he's gonna be the best NFL QB out of this class.

I think it's basically whether he wants it or not - which yes, will be determined by the interviews. You can see he already processes well and has excellent pocket presence for someone so inexperienced.

If I'm making the pick he's the guy - but I'm not so it'll be Bryce Stroud.  

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