Joe Person: Dave Tepper tipped Panthers next pick

[LinvilleGorge]

I really hope we don't make the Cam mistake again. "Oh, this guy is so good he doesn't need any help so we can spend all our resources on defense now!"

[Donald LaFell]

19 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I really hope we don't make the Cam mistake again. "Oh, this guy is so good he doesn't need any help so we can spend all our resources on defense now!"

Seahawks did too with Wilson. 

[Donald LaFell]

I feel like Person is just flipping a coin to see if he will look smart or not lol 

[DJ feed me moore]

lads idk about yall but I need micheal mayer in the building, we got our mahomes, lets get our kelce.

[DJ feed me moore]

2 minutes ago, Buckeye Homer said:

I love Mayer's game!  In three years at Notre Dame he never once turned the ball over, either, despite 180 receptions.  

https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/_/id/4429086/michael-mayer

Im glad your still here @Buckeye Homer, sorry it didn't work out for CJ, I wanted him or bryce so I'm content. I think CJ is going to a good spot though, great coach.

[CarolinaRideorDie]

Given how the draft has gone tonight, I really think Mayer is a legit option for our second round pick. He gives me Greg Olsen vibes! If you are picked in 2nd round, you are expected to compete for starting spot immediately, there are no further 1st round Wrs but Mayer is 1st round talent. Pick him at #39! 

[Hoenheim]

Mayer will be long gone by 39 you are kidding yourself. BJ too most likely.

I think the pick will be a CB 

Edited April 28, 2023 by Hoenheim

[DJ feed me moore]

3 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

Mayer will be long gone by 39 you are kidding yourself. BJ too most likely.

I think the pick will be a CB 

if he gets past the lions there's a real chance.

[TheMostInterestingMan]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I really hope we don't make the Cam mistake again. "Oh, this guy is so good he doesn't need any help so we can spend all our resources on defense now!"

I mean we signed two WRs a TE and a RB. The reality is we have bigger needs on defense right now. We are changing our scheme and could use CB, LBs and a 3-4 DE. 
 

On offense, OG is the biggest need now and it’s not really a huge one. We don’t have a star WR but there isn’t one in the draft and we have a solid group heading into the season. TE is possible but I think defense is where we would be better off going in general 

[Woot]

Leonard Floyd

[LinvilleGorge]

5 hours ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

I mean we signed two WRs a TE and a RB. The reality is we have bigger needs on defense right now. We are changing our scheme and could use CB, LBs and a 3-4 DE. 
 

On offense, OG is the biggest need now and it’s not really a huge one. We don’t have a star WR but there isn’t one in the draft and we have a solid group heading into the season. TE is possible but I think defense is where we would be better off going in general 

We have bandaids, I'm not sure we have any long-term solutions. Thielen is 32 and is on the decline. Chark is talented but is usually injured. TMJ will hopefully develop. On paper, this is definitely a bottom 10 NFL WR corps. Hurst is a former 1st round bust who is knocking on the door of 30. Three teams in five years basically putting up good backup caliber stats. I honestly think we significantly overpaid him.

[CRA]

Fug that mentality.   

We need to grow Bryce with the best  weapons we can get him.  We got an assemble of guys who aren’t likely to be long term fixtures and/or just solid. 

It’s an offensive league.  Burrow, Mahomes, etc grew with the best 1-2 weapons arguably in the NFL.   Weapons matter.  And look at a Trevor or Tua last year.  Change the weapons and it changes the QB.  And they still not giving Trevor what he needs to really grow and go. 

but yeah, I’ve felt they would go D. They should snag a speedster WR or equip us to go heavy 2 TE. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We have bandaids, I'm not sure we have any long-term solutions. Thielen is 32 and is on the decline. Chark is talented but is usually injured. TMJ will hopefully develop. On paper, this is definitely a bottom 10 NFL WR corps. Hurst is a former 1st round bust who is knocking on the door of 30. Three teams in five years basically putting up good backup caliber stats. I honestly think we significantly overpaid him.

Look, I agree that these aren’t the weapons to serve BY throughout his Panthers career, but I think the signings show intent. This is a significantly better WR group than Cam ever had while he was here to be honest.

The problem with just being determined to get him weapons is the value left in this draft. There’s genuine day 1 starters on the defensive side of the ball where we need help. You have very few players on the offensive side of value other than OG. Michael Mayer probably is value now, but the WR class in the draft is just pretty weak. At this point you are looking at Downs, Mingo and Hyatt and they are probably all more 3rd round level talents in your average draft class. 
 

In short, I think the bandaid is fine this year. Of course we need to get BY weapons but I would rather get a 1st round talent on defense at 39 than a 3rd round talent on offense. I think we can make due this year with what we have.

Though to be honest, I would REALLY love Torrence or Avila. My ideal pick would be one of those guys. I’m all for just going ahead and making this offensive line the best we have ever had.

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, TheMostInterestingMan said:

Look, I agree that these aren’t the weapons to serve BY throughout his Panthers career, but I think the signings show intent. This is a significantly better WR group than Cam ever had while he was here to be honest.

Signficantly better than anything Cam had? Cam's rookie receiving option were better than what we have now. 

89, Olsen, Shockey, Lafell, LEGATRON!!!!!, 2 pro bowl RBs? 

There is a reason 89 broke the rookie passing record.  He had basically an ideal group around him.