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Simms top 40 QB's

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2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Im not even sure diva WR is a thing anymore.

 

AB was the last of a dying breed. TO/Moss/Ocho Cinco have long been retired.

 

Who in the league right now is even considered a diva WR?

 

Stefon diggs , devante Adams, deandre Hopkins, cedeee lamb,  jamarr chase and Justin Jefferson

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5 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Ooooo do Peyton Manning and Patrick Mahomes next! Where would they go if they were draft eligible????

Why are you so mad that folks point out that Caleb Williams is a better prospect than anyone in this class? 

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14 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

Lot of scouts had Richardson #1, CJ #2 and Young #3. 

 

I'll also add that if Young was 6-2 or taller and weighed 230ish, that wouldn't be the case. He'd be a clear cut #1 most years with prototype size 

Who cares at this point. 

The Panthers ain't worries about it. 

Thank God we have you to.continue to beat a dead horse though. 

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9 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I hope the people that said Stroud will bust because OSU first round QBs always bust (all two of them) scream twice as loud about Williams next year. USC’s “qb history” is worse. 

I disagree. At least USC had Carson Palmer who actually had a pretty good career. Sure he’s not a HOFer, but he had 10+ year career in the NFL as a starter. Ohio State hasn’t produced a QB of that caliber AT ALL, in any round. 
 

Either way, it’s pretty interesting to have two power house schools like that who practically never produce any NFL talent at the QB position.  

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3 hours ago, Varking said:

Why are you so mad that folks point out that Caleb Williams is a better prospect than anyone in this class? 

I’m not mad at all. It’s just a silly thing to say. It’s serves zero relevance to actuality and it’s assumption that can’t be validated.

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8 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't take you serious. Im not even sure if you know what a diva WR is.

 

Bro just naming the best WR's in the league and calling them diva's.

 

 

All of those receivers have had locker room episodes, sidelines eruptions, or cussed out their QB in front of the team.

 

The definition of diva is subjective, but the behaviors all of the above have shown… are diva like in my opinion. 

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      By tukafan21 · Posted

      How am I all over the place?  I'm still saying that. I'm saying that Chark at his best and T-Mac right now, on the same team right now for the 2025 season, T-Mac would be ahead of him on the depth chart Week 1. Because in the same way everyone is saying, "T-Mac hasn't played a snap in the NFL yet", the very same is true to say, "nothing Chark did in his past matters moving forward" His peak was a 1,008 yard season where he was the only decent WR on a terrible team.  He didn't put up the 1k yard season because he was a great WR, it was because of how bad the rest of them on the team were. His stats aren't the same as his ability, and his ability was never all that good to begin with. Hell, most of this board agrees that T-Mac is our #1 right now, even if Thielen is Bryce's #1 option early in the saeson just because of the comfort level there, he's still just a slot safety valve and T-Mac is our #1. If you put peak Chark on the roster RIGHT NOW (even without T-Mac)... is anyone even putting him over Thielen, XL, or Coker going into this season? I'm honestly not sure many of us would consider him as such, because even at his best, he was just a JAG.  So if the same people who are okay with T-Mac being ahead of those guys right now, wouldn't put Chark above them, how can you in the same breath say Chark was better than T-Mac already is now?
    • LinvilleGorge
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      By LinvilleGorge · Posted

      Dude... you're just all over the place. You're the one who said T-Mac is better right now than Chark was at his best.
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      By tukafan21 · Posted

      When I say "average NFL WR", for me, that's comparing him to all WRs in the league during that season/span of time.  He was of course better than those #4-6 WR's that can't even get on the field, but talent/ability wise, he probably wasn't any better than a #3 WR for most NFL teams, he just happened to be on one of the teams in 2019 with even worse WR's so he put up solid stats for the season. Here's more or less how I'm looking at it. Take T-Mac right now and Chark at his best, put them on every NFL team at this very moment, and where would they fall on the depth chart come Week 1 (basically, the teams that don't put the rookies at #1 to "make them earn it in camp" don't count, it's projecting week 1 depth charts). T-Mac would be at worst the #2 WR on the majority of teams this season, (hell, he's likely our #1 at this very moment right now already), peak Chark would not.  Yes, T-Mac still has to prove himself at this level, but his current ability, even as a rookie who hasn't played a snap yet, would have him above Chark on any team's week 1 depth chart. Because again, you can't just fall back on "well Chark had a 1,000 yard season" and use that as the reason for having him above T-Mac.  As he didn't have that 1k yards because he was a beast, it was because he was the only halfway decent receiving option on a bad team that was always losing and passing the ball (the Jags had the 7th worst scoring differential that season).
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