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Peppers as a first-year HOF entrant in 2024?

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44 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

There is no way Luke doesn’t get first ballot. I think he’ll come back around to coaching somewhere too eventually when he grows up a bit more and lives the other side of life for a while. That would all but cement it. 

There is definitely a way he doesn't get in first ballot, he "only" played 8 seasons. Patrick Willis who also "only" Played 8 seasons and has a very similar resume to Luke still isn't in the hall (and should be as well):

Luke:

  • 5x 1st team AP, 2x 2nd team AP
  • 7x Pro Bowl
  • HOF All 2010s Team
  • 2012 Def RoY
  • 2013 Def PoY

Willis:

  • 5x 1st team AP, 2x 2nd team AP
  • 7x Pro Bowl
  • HOF All 2010s Team
  • 2007 Def ROY

Luke has the DPoY which may help nudge him in quicker, but Willis stepped away in his prime just like Luke and he has been waiting a few years now. Willis also played for a bigger market team in SF so he had more media attention, and he still isn't in yet. Both should get in eventually but don't be surprised if he isn't in first ballot. The writers are ass clowns when it comes to voting these guys in based on arbitrary reasons - Case in point, TO was not in first ballot even though he's a top 3 receiver in damn near every major category, mainly because he was a dick to the media.

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5 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

There is definitely a way he doesn't get in first ballot, he "only" played 8 seasons. Patrick Willis who also "only" Played 8 seasons and has a very similar resume to Luke still isn't in the hall (and should be as well):

Luke:

  • 5x 1st team AP, 2x 2nd team AP
  • 7x Pro Bowl
  • HOF All 2010s Team
  • 2012 Def RoY
  • 2013 Def PoY

Willis:

  • 5x 1st team AP, 2x 2nd team AP
  • 7x Pro Bowl
  • HOF All 2010s Team
  • 2007 Def ROY

Luke has the DPoY which may help nudge him in quicker, but Willis stepped away in his prime just like Luke and he has been waiting a few years now. Willis also played for a bigger market team in SF so he had more media attention, and he still isn't in yet. Both should get in eventually but don't be surprised if he isn't in first ballot. The writers are ass clowns when it comes to voting these guys in based on arbitrary reasons - Case in point, TO was not in first ballot even though he's a top 3 receiver in damn near every major category, mainly because he was a dick to the media.

TBF, according to all reports, TO was a dick to everyone. 

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Smith should have went 1st ballot. The WRs that got in before him had worse numbers (or close to the same) and played with better QBs. Absolutely criminal. 5 9 185 lbs. Small market 3rd round pick drafted as a STer earned everything in his career. Over 1,000 receptions Amost 15,000 receiving yards and a triple crown winner. If that's not worthy of 1st ballot I'm not sure what is. I'm sure the reason he's not in isn't even performance related. They probably hold his personality/fights with his teammates against him

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Pep absolutely should be first ballot. Smitty, as others have mentioned, should have been as well. Luke... I love Luke, but I'm on the fence about his HoF status. If he would have hung on a couple more years and continued to play like that then it's a no-brainer, but as of right now it's a close call.

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