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6 minutes ago, emhoward said:

I wasnt around much doing the off season but it must have been toxic. I cant remember the last time at fanbase turned on a #1 pick so fast. 

Usually no matter how bad a player is, a fanbase would bend over backwards to justify the pick. The Jamarcus Russell's and Zach Wilsons of the world still had the advocates after a year of play and people are giving up on Bryce after 3 games??

My assumption is this is mostly due to heavy debate in terms of who the QB should have been in the first place, but now that he's here I dont understand why some are waving the white flag after 80 NFL throws. 

We’ve just seen nothing exciting from Bryce on top of the fact that we gave up assets to get this guy. It’s really because it’s incredibly immediately obvious that we don’t have much to cling to because there’s nothing to cling to with Bryce right now. Lump that with an awful football team and you get this. 

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10 minutes ago, emhoward said:

I wasnt around much doing the off season but it must have been toxic. I cant remember the last time at fanbase turned on a #1 pick so fast. 

Usually no matter how bad a player is, a fanbase would bend over backwards to justify the pick. The Jamarcus Russell's and Zach Wilsons of the world still had the advocates after a year of play and people are giving up on Bryce after 3 games??

My assumption is this is mostly due to heavy debate in terms of who the QB should have been in the first place, but now that he's here I dont understand why some are waving the white flag after 80 NFL throws. 

Because out of those 80 nfl throws he hasn't shown not one to live up to a number one overall pick. Its not about wins, you want to see the talent of your investment on display and if you are drafted number 1 overall  you are the biggest show in town hy default. He has honestly looked like a game manager borderline starter to backup since pre season. Andy dalton had more high level plays in one game then we have seen from bryce since he got here. Its just the truth. The people that are finding ways to praise him i honestly dont know what they are looking at. Nothing is there.

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2 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Because out of those 80 nfl throws he hasn't shown not one to live up to a number one overall pick. Its not about wins, you want to see the talent of your investment on display and he has honestly looked like a game manager borderline starter to backup since pre season. Andy dalton had more high level plays in one game then we have seen from bryce since he got here. Its just the truth. The people that are finding ways to praise him i honestly dont know what they are looking at. Nothing is there. 

I dont see anyone praising him here since the games started (preseason, sure). There are just some that are saying he's not a bust yet. 

Andy Dalton has been in the league 12 years. He should look better imo. 

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4 minutes ago, Panthering said:

https://x.com/thestevenruiz/status/1708655520654017009?s=46&t=MMyhd2cmQe9JdsUyWXdKTg
 

look at this absolute laser beam from AR whewwww 

Those are the kinds of plays i have been looking for from Bryce. The poise, accuracy, the confidence on the throw and just flat out big plays. Those kinds of plays give the team and fanbase confidence. Its reminds me how much cam did this on the regular his rookie year. That was a fun year, even tho we weren't winning like that. 

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Sure you are, buddy. You're just a bandwagon jumper. You low-key poo on UNC every time it's brought up. We don't need fans like you. Go follow Deion around wherever he ends up next. Be gone.

Never poo'd on UNC. You just mad because I said Caleb was better than Maye. Which is a fact.

 

Other than that I like what I have seen from UNC. Schedule will get tougher though we played some cupcakes so far. Currently in my UNC pajamas as I post this.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, emhoward said:

I dont see anyone praising him here since the games started (preseason, sure). There are just some that are saying he's not a bust yet. 

Andy Dalton has been in the league 12 years. He should look better imo. 

Why do yall keep saying this like its a valid response?? The offense had looked absolutely putrid before dalton got in there all around. He made it look competent by being inserted, you had confidence they could move the ball. Theilen and chark  looked serviceable and worth fa signings.  Above all the game was actually interesting. 

Whats crazy is dalton hadn't even seen That much action up till then so he could have had a rust factor which was legitimate. He just looked more comfortable and did his job.

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3 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Why do yall keep saying this like its a valid response?? The offense had looked absolutely putrid before dalton got in there all around. He made it look competent by being inserted, you had confidence they could move the ball. Theilen and chark  looked serviceable and worth fa signings.  Above all the game was actually interesting. 

Why isnt that valid? Dalton looked much better. Im acknowledging that. Im saying that a guy whos been in the league 12 years looking better than a guy thats played 3 games, doesnt mean that the guy thats played 3 games will not turn into a franchise guy. 

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9 minutes ago, emhoward said:

Why isnt that valid? Dalton looked much better. Im acknowledging that. Im saying that a guy whos been in the league 12 years looking better than a guy thats played 3 games, doesnt mean that the guy thats played 3 games will not turn into a franchise guy. 

beleive me, the Dalton point is a salient one. Dalton isn't some incredible talent. He's a  decent backup journeyman vet QB. 

The fact that theres such a huge contrast between the two when Andy vs Bryce is in the game is an indictment on Bryces ability to play QB at the moment. Especially given he was the #1 overall pick.

Your argument would hold more water if Bryce was some mid or late round project that we had minimal expectations for. But given the context of the situation of how Bryce was brought in here, its currently looking like a horrible draft decision. Until proven otherwise

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