Albert Breer on Reich, Tepper, Fitterer and Ben Johnson

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Seems like everyone Tepper hires does. There's a common thread.

That and people leaving...

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, The Lobo said:

Right but you could argue Kraft got lucky with Brady. His handling of the team after brady is not good. Belicheck can only do so much. I also don’t think Tepper will figure it out either. He has made one good decision yet, besides the logo at midfield. 

I don't think anyone can guarantee that he will.

The one encouraging thing I can say is that he has at least seen and been able to admit when he's made mistakes.

Whether they're responses he makes to those mistakes might or might not also be a mistakes is another story.

[The Natural]

50 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm not sure if it's that simple. He went out this time and put together a staff chock full of NFL experience. I don't think these guys just suddenly forgot everything they knew.

So what exactly are you implying? Do you think Tepper is calling the plays in to Bryce? I'm genuinely curious to what extent you think Dave is controlling things.

[The Natural]

22 minutes ago, RumHam said:

I swear the owners planted him here to get the panthers out of this market, but a slow burn and not something overnight. Could have had P. Diddy.

Charlotte is one of the biggest and fastest growing markets in the country.... Why would the NFL not want a team here?

[rayzor]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

 

Also, here's more from Greer on Dan Patrick's show...

 

i mean if that's what he's doing...i guess it's his team and he can do what he wants, but that's unhealthy meddling.

but if all he's doing as putting a lot of heat on a coach of an 0-5 team, then he probably should be.

granted, that's probably not all he's doing. 

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, The Natural said:

So what exactly are you implying? Do you think Tepper is calling the plays in to Bryce? I'm genuinely curious to what extent you think Dave is controlling things.

Tepper constantly talks about creating a winning culture. He keeps trying to find the right guys to do that. Seems to me that he has created a culture himself and it ain't a winning one.

[Wundrbread33]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh, this poor multi-billionaire who has driven this organization right through the ground. Won't someone please think of his feelings?!

Huh? 

[Martin]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Tepper constantly talks about creating a winning culture. He keeps trying to find the right guys to do that. Seems to me that he has created a culture himself and it ain't a winning one.

No doubt Tepper is at fault, but that doesn’t absolve Frank of his performance. I guess that is where we differ in opinion.

[toldozer]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones ownership have also won 3 Super Bowls, so I think the equivalency here isn’t very accurate.

That's before he booted the coach/gm bc he could do it better

[thennek]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

All we can do is hope that Tepper wakes up one day and looks in the mirror and realizes this isn't working and I'm the root of the problem.

Guys like Tepper never think they are the problem. 

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Martin said:

No doubt Tepper is at fault, but that doesn’t absolve Frank of his performance. I guess that is where we differ in opinion.

Not absolving Frank and I think he should let his OC do his job, I'm just saying it ultimately all points back to Tepper. When the underlings constantly change and it looks like the same clown show, it might be on the ringmaster.

[thennek]

20 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i mean if that's what he's doing...i guess it's his team and he can do what he wants, but that's unhealthy meddling.

but if all he's doing as putting a lot of heat on a coach of an 0-5 team, then he probably should be.

granted, that's probably not all he's doing. 

Understand but the reason why the Panthers continue to lose is because of his meddling. These coaches can’t win because he meddles and then screams at them because they are not winning. .

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, rayzor said:

i mean if that's what he's doing...i guess it's his team and he can do what he wants, but that's unhealthy meddling.

but if all he's doing as putting a lot of heat on a coach of an 0-5 team, then he probably should be.

granted, that's probably not all he's doing. 

If you'd have asked me previously, I probably would have said that's all he was doing. But the reports that he might be doing more than that are starting to get louder and more frequent.

I do kind of wonder if the team or Tepper himself will respond to this in any way. My guess is they won't but it'll be interesting if they do.

Edited October 12, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[hepcat]

2 hours ago, therealmjl said:

The only thing I took away from that is maybe we can get ben Johnson this offseason.

 Again

The coaching candidate pool is going to keep getting worse if every coach who comes to the Panthers sucks ass. Panthers are the new Browns