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Ouch. Clemson, Duke, and NCSU still alive. I know someone on here who is livid as fug!

Look, I've been a fan of the Heels for like 42 years or something. But lately, and especially now, they have fielded the SOFTEST ass teams. No bangers, no brutes, no street smarts, no goons, etc. I miss the days when teams would fear us. But now, and with Duke too, it's a bunch of pretty little diva kids ... just like in the NBA. But then you look at NCSU and Clemson and they got some hard-nosed ballers. Not good enough for the NBA, but good enough to make the pretty boys go home and cry to momma. Give me Eric Montross, Vince Carter, Jerry Stackhouse, Tyler Hansbrough, George Lynch, and Rasheed Wallace ANY day over this current crop of wimps.

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I don't know where all this fight came from. All year when a game came down to the wire these boys looked like a deer in front of headlights and now they just knocked off the most physical defense in the country in a 40 minute street fight. So goddamn proud of this team regardless of what happens the rest of the way. Its so refreshing to have a team peak when it matters as opposed to the usual soft BS during the post 2015 late K era 

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36 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Ouch. Clemson, Duke, and NCSU still alive. I know someone on here who is livid as fug!

Look, I've been a fan of the Heels for like 42 years or something. But lately, and especially now, they have fielded the SOFTEST ass teams. No bangers, no brutes, no street smarts, no goons, etc. I miss the days when teams would fear us. But now, and with Duke too, it's a bunch of pretty little diva kids ... just like in the NBA. But then you look at NCSU and Clemson and they got some hard-nosed ballers. Not good enough for the NBA, but good enough to make the pretty boys go home and cry to momma. Give me Eric Montross, Vince Carter, Jerry Stackhouse, Tyler Hansbrough, George Lynch, and Rasheed Wallace ANY day over this current crop of wimps.

I've never enjoyed anything about NC State, but this team is relaxed yet alpha. And they've been so in the shadow of other NC basketball teams for so long it's not like they should have that many haters. And obviously Duke is a bunch of prep school diva types so they can fug off every year

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7 hours ago, beo said:

I don't know where all this fight came from. All year when a game came down to the wire these boys looked like a deer in front of headlights and now they just knocked off the most physical defense in the country in a 40 minute street fight. So goddamn proud of this team regardless of what happens the rest of the way. Its so refreshing to have a team peak when it matters as opposed to the usual soft BS during the post 2015 late K era 

Congrats to Duke, but you have to admit, it helped a lot when Houston's best player got injured.  

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You're getting what you asked for earlier in the night

Well, didn't really ask for it, or want it even.  Think I just said it will be interesting.  And I am glad that the ACC will have one, and maybe two teams in the final four.  Yet another "down" year.  

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4 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Congrats to Duke, but you have to admit, it helped a lot when Houston's best player got injured.  

Definitely, but considering all the injuries Duke dealt with last year (with Mitchell getting hurt right before the tourney game started), and in 2019, 2017, 2016, could keep going honestly we've had a raw deal in terms of tourney injury luck recently.  Plus it was competitive even with Shead in the game, so I aint apologizing lol. I do feel for them though, Houston is a very fun team to watch and it sucks to have that happen in such an important moment.

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Yet another "down" year.  

It's so obviously just a ploy to ruin the ACC's reputation so that E$PN's golden goose (the SEC) can pick it apart. Year after year we hear these narratives and they're always proven wrong. Hope to see the ACC continue performing in basketball and football, though at this point an eventual dissolution seems inevitable regardless of on-field/court results sadly.

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