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Frank’s Friday presser

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25 minutes ago, emhoward said:

This is incredibly frustrating. Not only do we not have a #1 WR. We dont have a player whos been a number one in half a decade. 

Chark has never been more than a 3. 

Mingo's a rook.

Marshall... just no. 

And Thelien was a number 2 last year. But the Vikings let him go and drafted his replacement in the 1st round. So our number 1 WR is a guy that Minnesota didnt think was good enough to be their #2. I mean if you can't get consistently open when Justin Jefferson is drawing double teams on the other side of the field, how often are you going to get open when your partner in crime is DJ Chark?

There's been a lot said of Mahomes' pedestrian numbers because of not having #1WR and he plays with the greatest TE of all time. We basically have the Chiefs weapons without Kelce and I would still take their weapons because at least they have speed. And not only that but they also the greatest offensive mind of the last 20 yrs as his coach and we have Reich. Our weapons suck and how we didnt know this coming into the year is insane.

KC still as an abundance of speed at least.  They might not be great WRs but you got Mahomes and speed everywhere….that prohibits teams from overplaying Kelce.  Defenses are still terrified of the deep ball.  

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13 minutes ago, CRA said:

KC still as an abundance of speed at least.  They might not be great WRs but you got Mahomes and speed everywhere….that prohibits teams from overplaying Kelce.  Defenses are still terrified of the deep ball.  

Rashee Rice is getting better by the week, don't be surprised if he starts to take off in the second half of his rookie year

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33 minutes ago, BrianS said:

Just a sec now . . . . why would he change?  Yes, 2022 was a bad deal, but it was widely reported that Irsay was meddling heavily - some say telling Reich who to start at QB.  So, before that then.  His Colts offenses were 5th, 16th, 9th, and 9th in points scored the years prior.  That's pretty solid.

I don't know if Reich is the problem. 

I am sure that our personnel is a problem.  The decisions made there have not worked.  Free agents, draft, cap, trades . . . it's all been a mess.  And it seems likely that Tepper has his mitts in that too.

Since 2020 he has been in a decline. When Ballard was hired he did even worse in 22 and that last year they ended up at 30. The total yards in 20 and 21 went from 10 to 16 to 27 in 22. Yes he was fired during 22 but he was still the HC for that offseason. So in 23 with that same GM they are 7 and 12 again. This year he is 27 and 29 respectively. 

The fact he came here the way he did and showed he learned nothing is not a positive any way you look at it. The entire pitch that it was everyone else in Indy is smashed, he absolutely was part of their problems. Siriani was an idiot but they did that same song and dance in 22 and then went away from it when Frank was gone in 23. 

Tepper has a finger in way too many things and Frank was fine with that just like he was fine with his QBs the last 4 years. They may not have been his first choice but there is zero record of him being against them that I have seen. 

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When leaky faucet dropped the nugget that Franks preferred choice was to sign Derek Carr rather than draft a QB at all, that should have clued us in what he’s about. You would think after that approach has failed him so often in Indy and knowing how many times it’s burned us over the last several years that it’s just not a fit. Steichen who has the track record of developing QBs in recent years would have made much more sense. 
 

 

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9 hours ago, X-Clown said:

When leaky faucet dropped the nugget that Franks preferred choice was to sign Derek Carr rather than draft a QB at all, that should have clued us in what he’s about. You would think after that approach has failed him so often in Indy and knowing how many times it’s burned us over the last several years that it’s just not a fit. Steichen who has the track record of developing QBs in recent years would have made much more sense. 
 

 

The Panthers would be significantly better off right now to have signed Carr and kept DJ Moore along with the draft picks they gave up to pick Young. There are too many holes on this team to develop a rookie QB. The Panthers have been giving away so many picks the last few years they have no depth and few quality starters. I do not if it was Rhule, Fitt, Tepper or a combination of all of them but this team has been terrible. 

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40 minutes ago, thennek said:

The Panthers would be significantly better off right now to have signed Carr and kept DJ Moore along with the draft picks they gave up to pick Young. There are too many holes on this team to develop a rookie QB. The Panthers have been giving away so many picks the last few years they have no depth and few quality starters. I do not if it was Rhule, Fitt, Tepper or a combination of all of them but this team has been terrible. 

Better off right now, yes. But likely a ceiling of 8-9 wins this year and 38 million a year through 2026 for a QB who is middle of the road on his best day? Is that not a repeat of what we have done and failed with since Cam left?

Agreed on everything else though - there’s no coherent strategy, the front office keeps misevaluating where they stand as a team and making moves accordingly. It’s mind boggling that they didn’t do a true rebuild at any point since 2019

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On 11/10/2023 at 3:27 PM, BrianS said:

Just a sec now . . . . why would he change?  Yes, 2022 was a bad deal, but it was widely reported that Irsay was meddling heavily - some say telling Reich who to start at QB.  So, before that then.  His Colts offenses were 5th, 16th, 9th, and 9th in points scored the years prior.  That's pretty solid.

I don't know if Reich is the problem. 

I am sure that our personnel is a problem.  The decisions made there have not worked.  Free agents, draft, cap, trades . . . it's all been a mess.  And it seems likely that Tepper has his mitts in that too.

Blindly blame the owner entirely and give everyone else a pass.  Has worked out well so far..

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