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ESPN Analytics: Bryce Young 431 of 431 QBs since 2011 in yards per dropback

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Well, we do know that it's somewhere between quite a bit and a lot just from watching the games if we're being honest. The awful footwork. The jump passes. The misses. The bad reads leading to INTs. The constant checks (kill! kill! kill!) into ineffective runs and screens. 

Bryce has been bad, y'all. It's very obvious. Yes, the entire offense is also had and that's not all in Bryce. But Bryce is a big reason why this offense has been atrocious.

There has been 3 announcers that have independently said when watching our games 'What is the QB to do here?' with his porous o-line, and WRs that can't separate at the top of his drop.

QB School YT series has gone at length echoing the same sentiments, and showing how Bryce throws with 'A' anticipation - out of necessity. I trust these analysts more than your independent observations. No QB is going to be successful in this environment.

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3 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

There has been 3 announcers that have independently said when watching our games 'What is the QB to do here?' with his porous o-line, and WRs that can't separate at the top of his drop.

QB School YT series has gone at length echoing the same sentiments, and showing how Bryce throws with 'A' anticipation - out of necessity. I trust these analysts more than your independent observations. No QB is going to be successful in this environment.

Yes, there are definitely plays where that is true. That's true for every offense. I heard those same comments about the Texans, Bills, and Chargers yesterday. Yes, our offense has more of those plays than most.

QB School bro LOVED Bryce as a prospect and he stubbornly hangs onto his initial reads for far too long. Might be why he didn't have success playing QB.

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3 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

There has been 3 announcers that have independently said when watching our games 'What is the QB to do here?' with his porous o-line, and WRs that can't separate at the top of his drop.

QB School YT series has gone at length echoing the same sentiments, and showing how Bryce throws with 'A' anticipation - out of necessity. I trust these analysts more than your independent observations. No QB is going to be successful in this environment.

At this point it don’t matter ppl will see what they see.. BY will have 2 more years IMO to prove them wrong.. Hopefully the team can do something so we can evaluate from a objective perspective..  Instead of this trash we did this year..

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5 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

There has been 3 announcers that have independently said when watching our games 'What is the QB to do here?' with his porous o-line, and WRs that can't separate at the top of his drop.

QB School YT series has gone at length echoing the same sentiments, and showing how Bryce throws with 'A' anticipation - out of necessity. I trust these analysts more than your independent observations. No QB is going to be successful in this environment.

There has also been a former NFL QB that has said Young isn't hitting his target fast enough AND that the option is there for him to do so. And an announcer or analyst said his footwork is bad right now. So ... sign back onto your regular account please.

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All Bryce needs is for every other player on the team to be all pro at their positions and he will be at least an average qb ......seriously hope he plays better but its not looking good saw another article comparing his and daltons in depth metrics and it wasnt pretty either.  This is the link to that one. 

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com/2023/11/08/bryce-young-was-a-college-legend-but-hes-not-a-good-fit-for-the-pros/

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4 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

There has also been a former NFL QB that has said Young isn't hitting his target fast enough AND that the option is there for him to do so. And an announcer or analyst said his footwork is bad right now. So ... sign back onto your regular account please.

Bs .. Let’s see who can post more opinions..

Ill start..

you can make excuses to negate his opinion but nobody is breaking down every pass like him..

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Just now, fanpanther said:

All Bryce needs is for every other player on the team to be all pro at their positions and he will be at least an average qb ......seriously hope he plays better but its not looking good saw another article comparing his and daltons in depth metrics and it wasnt pretty either.  This is the link to that one. 

https://www.sportsinfosolutions.com/2023/11/08/bryce-young-was-a-college-legend-but-hes-not-a-good-fit-for-the-pros/

How about every other player be a football player..

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19 minutes ago, Cornflake said:

There has been 3 announcers that have independently said when watching our games 'What is the QB to do here?' with his porous o-line, and WRs that can't separate at the top of his drop.

QB School YT series has gone at length echoing the same sentiments, and showing how Bryce throws with 'A' anticipation - out of necessity. I trust these analysts more than your independent observations. No QB is going to be successful in this environment.

That's not every play though.  He misses guys and his footwork is absolutely horrible 

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11 minutes ago, Dog Runner said:

And an offensive line that that is not a sieve

Part of the reason why the OLine is struggling is that teams have literally zero fear of Young beating them over the top - so they're happy 'gambling' and sending blitzes. 

Everyone on defence is within 10 yards of the LOS and half of them are threatening to blitz every down - it must be a nightmare for the OLine. 

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7 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Part of the reason why the OLine is struggling is that teams have literally zero fear of Young beating them over the top - so they're happy 'gambling' and sending blitzes. 

Everyone on defence is within 10 yards of the LOS and half of them are threatening to blitz every down - it must be a nightmare for the OLine. 

That’s BS.. 

Having fear or no fear of the QB doesn’t make Olinemen do this 2 to 3 times a game..

https://x.com/duncondemand/status/1728865794078261349?s=46&t=-UJBTSFvMTzAfVccG8qD_Q

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