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8 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Drake Mayes game getting picked apart but not Bryce is crazy stuff.

Sports media does this every year they play favorites no different than fans. Most of it is just outside noise that will go away as long as he shows he is committed to football.

As for the difference to Bryce Young honestly you can chalk up most if not all of that to Alabama and Saban.

Make no mistake though teams are keeping tabs on Bryce Young's progress and that will have an effect on the likelihood of any QB's lacking basic physical traits going anywhere near the top 10 again.

BTW has anyone heard or read anything whatsoever about the S2?

*crickets*

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10 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Cam is taller.  Note that Sean Payton says exactly what Canales has been saying.  You could argue that he did well with Brees but not Russell, but Russell has been successful at his height and we do not know that was the reason he decided to part ways.  While height is a factor, Payton (the QB whisperer) does not seem to be that concerned about it---

Payton said the Saints had two “really good guards” in Jahri Evans and Carl Nicks who helped Brees climb the pocket and find throwing lanes. Payton has coached QBs of various heights and he knows how to help create throwing those lanes.

Whether the Broncos land a tall quarterback or a shorter prospect, Payton said it’s Denver’s job to set them up for success. 

“I do think part of our jobs is to build around the strength of your players,” Payton said. “Even this year, what are the things that we feel like our receivers do well, that ‘Russ’ does well and that the running backs [do well]? That’s our job. And so our offense — and when I say our, [I mean] wherever I’ve been — it has been kind of an evolution of starting with the ingredients we have then building around them. So I think there’s still some things that are paramount today.

“At some point, teams are going to make you win from the pocket. We can rush a certain way to keep a quarterback from escaping. We’re going to have to be — wherever you’re at — proficient enough on third down to take a snap, find a throw and protect that spot that you’re referencing, regardless of height. I think oftentimes, these guys are seeing through lanes, not necessarily over them. Certainly for some quarterbacks, that can be a little bit more challenging.”

https://sports.yahoo.com/sean-payton-comments-qb-height-100005399.html

Height is just a part of Bryce's physical concerns. Wilson had a cannon of an arm. Brees had a decent arm with some of the best accuracy of all times. Bryce has one of the weakest arms in the league and his accuracy looked run of the mill last year. That's gonna be a really tough row to hoe.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Height is just a part of Bryce's physical concerns. Wilson had a cannon of an arm. Brees had a decent arm with some of the best accuracy of all times. Bryce has one of the weakest arms in the league and his accuracy looked run of the mill last year. That's gonna be a really tough row to hoe.

Yeah prime Wilson would have launched at least 6 or 7 deep balls on those scramble drills Bryce just tossed the ball out of bounds on. I still feel like that first Falcons game made him very aware of his velocity limitations against NFL db's

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Height is just a part of Bryce's physical concerns. Wilson had a cannon of an arm. Brees had a decent arm with some of the best accuracy of all times. Bryce has one of the weakest arms in the league and his accuracy looked run of the mill last year. That's gonna be a really tough row to hoe.

Height is all everyone here seems to be focused on.  Payton describes a process, and Bryce has not been through the process--they will factor his weaknesses and build around his strenghts--that is all Payton is saying.  His arm strength is what it is but his accuracy was never the issue at Bama.  Here, there are reasons for accuracy issues, such as throwing to covered WRs with a blitz in the face.  I am not predicting a miracle recovery, and maybe all we can get from him is what Miami got from Tua....but I want to see the process before writing him off.

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I agree that Bryce's performance was very poor last year. But I deal with people in my line of work that attack the symptoms and ignore the central problem.  Maybe Bryce is the central problem, but maybe most good QBs would have failed miserably here last year. 

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Just now, Shocker said:

Will be a trip if JJ goes ahead of Maye.  Will be interesting to see how many QBs go tonight

About 0.0% on that given maye is 3rd to NE.

I think 5 QB go in the first, 98.7%. I think JJ is the 5th late into the first. penix is all the buzz right now. 

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12 minutes ago, Basbear said:

About 0.0% on that given maye is 3rd to NE.

I think 5 QB go in the first, 98.7%. I think JJ is the 5th late into the first. penix is all the buzz right now. 

Interesting.  I think JJ is going early but not sure I think he should.  5 sounds about right.

Bo Nix is a wildcard…he might go late first too

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