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NFL Preseason week 1

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Jackie Lee Grand Master

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

JD already in the end zone his first drive.

Even the lowly Commanders seem to have no trouble moving the ball and scoring.

If BY and the offense can't move the ball against the Jets they deserve the criticism and then some.

Good point, this is the same Jets team we're meeting up with next week. Noted

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11 minutes ago, Icege said:

Completion to Hurst against the Colts.

Not to say he does it as often as some fans would prefer or that he should, but he does have the ability to do so. Hopefully we'll see more of that this year with improved protection and weapons.

That ball to Hurst on a corner route while he was wide ass open? That one?

That throw and the ball Daniels just threw are two completely different throws/routes 

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

That ball to Hurst on a corner route while he was wide ass open? That one?

That throw and the ball Daniels just threw are to completely different throws/routes 

How about this one? How many rookie QB's from this year's draft class do you think make this a completion 9 times out of 10?

https://www.nfl.com/videos/bryce-young-misses-golden-opportunity-for-45-yard-td-pass-to-mingo

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4 minutes ago, csx said:

They are a good team with a much much better roster. We knew this. We knew it would take several years if everything goes seamlessly for the Panthers to be a good team with depth needed.

Why has everyone forgotten and now expects immediate results from this roster?

Probably because it’s the NFL.  And there is virtually no reason to suck for a long period of time anymore.  League is designed so you shouldn’t be horrible a half decade.   Yet we get worse. 

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7 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

That ball to Hurst on a corner route while he was wide ass open? That one?

That throw and the ball Daniels just threw are to completely different throws/routes 

Bryce's pass came on 3rd & 11 while also under pressure. It traveled 35 yards through the air to the spot Hurst was going to be (placement). Daniels tossed a beautiful ball 40yds that Dyami Brown made a great one handed snag while keeping the defender off of him.

The comment was that Bryce could not throw a similar ball. We're all aware what that means: he doesn't have the arm strength. He put a ball just as far though, accurately, on time, and under pressure.

None of this takes away from JD's play. If anything, it takes away from the patently false claim that BY couldn't do the same.

Now if y'all want to complain that he doesn't do it enough, by all means have at it. Not much to deny there.

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4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Probably because it’s the NFL.  And there is virtually no reason to suck for a long period of time anymore.  League is designed so you shouldn’t be horrible a half decade.   Yet we get worse. 

People act like turning around the team is taking the SMU job after they got the death penalty.  We just have to stop fuging up lol.

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1 minute ago, Icege said:

Bryce's pass came on 3rd & 11 while also under pressure. It traveled 35 yards through the air to the spot Hurst was going to be (placement). Daniels tossed a beautiful ball 40yds that Dyami Brown made a great one handed snag on while keeping the defender off of him.

The comment was that Bryce could not throw a similar ball. We're all aware what that means: he doesn't have the arm strength. He put a ball just as far though, accurately, on time, and under pressure.

None of this takes away from JD's play. If anything, it takes away from the patently false claim that BY couldn't do the same.

Now if y'all want to complain that he doesn't do it enough, by all means have at it. Not much to deny there.

huh? Daniels just threw a dime 40 yards down the sideline on a go route with at best a step of separation  

The comment made was that Bryce could not throw a similar ball and he can’t or he at least hasn’t shown the ability to yet

A few attempts at it last year the ball landed a few yards out of bounds or he over shot the receiver. He struggles with the deep ball because he doesn’t have the arm to put enough under it to let his WR get under it

 

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6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

There’s like 3 minute long video floating around of him just missing Mingo deep lol

If you come across it I'd like to revisit that. The thing with Mingo is he has been an enigma of hot/ice cold. Even I recognize some of those instances may not be on just Bryce. There have been plays where Mingo just doesn't have his head in it. But glaring ones like that I linked are an example that better coaching fundamentals and scheme alone cannot overcome a lack of consistent physicality from your QB. The way that we have to microanalayze and berate other over air yards and stretch the limits of the term "deep pass" to validate the arm talent of our first overall pick speaks volumes in and of itself.

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4 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

huh? Daniels just threw a dime 40 yards down the sideline on a go route with at best a step of separation  

The comment made was that Bryce could not throw a similar ball and he can’t or he at least hasn’t shown the ability to yet

A few attempts at it last year the ball landed a few yards out of bounds or he over shot the receiver. He struggles with the deep ball because he doesn’t have the arm to put enough under it to let his WR get under it

I can go to YouTube right now and in less than 10sec find a clip of him making that type of throw. If the comment was that he doesn't do it enough, that'd be one thing. It was that he can't though, and that's proven to be false.

There's no possibility of a good faith back and forth if reality is going to be denied. Criticism that he hasn't done it enough in the pros? Have at it! That he can't though... ? That's a flat out lie.

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